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« Reply #50 on: August 17, 2009, 11:26:28 PM »

Thank you, finally an answer.
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« Reply #51 on: August 31, 2009, 09:22:06 AM »

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« Reply #52 on: September 01, 2009, 02:21:03 AM »

At the time when he was pumping money into the banks, there were a few of those shock jocks who said they wanted him to fail, which would presumably have meant the banks and the country would fail.


the problem is the word-'presumably'- just like the word 'assume'

they NEVER said they wanted the country to fail, they disagreed with Obamas policies, which they believe are not good for the country, and they hope they fail, which they clarified over and over again.

I think there are too many people on both sides of this fence using bits and bytes to make a point, when things are looked at in the context from which they were said a very different picture emerges, and that goes for both Rep. and Dems.

"Presumably" was polite: what else do you think would have happened. A lot of banks would have failed, millions of people would have been bankrupted, there would have been a long depression. Possibly people like Rush Limburg wouldn't mind that - he's rich enough to ride it out - but a lot of other people would.

What is happening now is not good, but its a hell of a lot better than it might have been.
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« Reply #53 on: September 01, 2009, 09:12:01 PM »

At the time when he was pumping money into the banks, there were a few of those shock jocks who said they wanted him to fail, which would presumably have meant the banks and the country would fail.


the problem is the word-'presumably'- just like the word 'assume'

they NEVER said they wanted the country to fail, they disagreed with Obamas policies, which they believe are not good for the country, and they hope they fail, which they clarified over and over again.

I think there are too many people on both sides of this fence using bits and bytes to make a point, when things are looked at in the context from which they were said a very different picture emerges, and that goes for both Rep. and Dems.

"Presumably" was polite: what else do you think would have happened. A lot of banks would have failed, millions of people would have been bankrupted, there would have been a long depression. Possibly people like Rush Limburg wouldn't mind that - he's rich enough to ride it out - but a lot of other people would.

What is happening now is not good, but its a hell of a lot better than it might have been.


My point was that Rushes quote was taken out of context- which he clarified over and over again- he loves our country and has no wish to see it fail- AND people on BOTH sides have taken an awful lot of things out of context for their own agendas.



I did not vote for Obama- but I was unhappy with the other guy too- I do think we don't live in a vacuum, and when a business fails because of mismanagement, it ought to pay the piper.





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pre·sum·a·ble (pr-zm-bl)
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That can be presumed or taken for granted; reasonable as a supposition: presumable causes of the disaster.

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pre·suma·bly adv.

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presumably
Adverb
one supposes or guesses; probably: he emerged from what was presumably the kitchen carrying a tray


just in case you didn't know-presumably is not a polite word- it is either an adjective or adverb- and it means a 'guess' and a guess is not a fact. You can presume to know the difference, or you can assume you know. just saying.
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« Reply #54 on: September 02, 2009, 01:12:15 PM »

They should have let the banks fail.  The FDIC would step in to insure peoples account and the government could have used the money to supplement the FDIC for those accounts.

Those banks lived by the capitalist system and should have died by it for their blatant screw-ups of trying to play the system for their own gain.





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« Reply #55 on: September 02, 2009, 08:24:29 PM »

Theoretically, I agree.  The problem in this case was that the FDIC was under funded because the Large banks  had lobbied congress to get them to determine that the FDIC was over funded and no one had paid into the fund since 2003.
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« Reply #56 on: August 24, 2013, 01:33:21 AM »

here's a thought... the main prob with the US political system is there's only 2 parties.. who control it all.. any other party that tries to put it's hand in gets rolled right over by being called (at the very least) fruit cakes and edits and right/left wing crazies.... they've got the country by the baws by polarizing everything.. just like racism is (supposedly) a white/black thing... hey wake up.. there's other things out there besides black and white and Republican and Democrat... our minds are too easily distracted.. want to take the public eye off sayyyy Benghazi?.... let's bring up a problem with the IRS.. no?.. how about tossing out something about ObamaCare?.. that should get John Q Public going on about something other than Benghazi.. and before ye jump in on THAT subject.. 'm just using Benghazi as an example... open yer eyes and see what's really going on the US is very rapidly going  to hell.. i think (my opinion yes) if the WWII generation knew what was coming down the road they'd have not bothered to fight against Fascism
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