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[MooseMom]

"Bronco Bama".  LOL!  I hope that little girl is happy now that the election is over.  I bet all Ohioans are grateful, too!

[Hemodoc]

There it is; the “mythology of the lie” is still with us.  It seems the right-wing has yet to recognize that attempts to frighten the public, does not work.  Bronco Bama is not going to shut down the coal industry.

Nor is Jeep going to relocate in China; or is socialism coming to America, nor is Obama going to fill out his cabinet with Muslims.  Most observers recognized that the right-wing campaign for the presidency was based on a fictional series of untruths, lies actually.  Even the Romney staff admitted it, “There are no fact-checkers here!”.  Then in the last two weeks after the lies piled up and the media began to grow more militant, Romney refused to answer any questions, and, again, the Romney staff claimed it didn’t matter whether any allegation was true or not; the election would be over before anyone responded to these fabricated charges. 

Bronco Bama very carefully explained the diversity of the US energy, and coal production is a part of the picture.  Nope, the President is not going to shut down the coal industry.

It is strange to read a statement that Obama must prove himself.  In case anyone has forgotten, Obama has been around for four years and if it wasn’t for an obstructionist Congress, we would be out of this recession.  Besides, the American public liked what they saw in Obama and re-elected him.  That endorsement should instruct the objective observer that no further proving of ones-self is required.

gl

Hey Gerald, you guys won, go rule and get on with it. Let's see what your man puts forth for an entire 8 years. If he doesn't move to the center, the country shall be in a greater mess than it is now. Add another 5 trillion dollars in debt which would be double of the entire group of presidents before him entirely, then I guess it will still be Bush's fault, or perhaps Reagan's.

If you say there is no war against coal by Obama, perhaps you need to shout that louder to the coal industry as their stock plummet. TIme will tell my friend.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-11-07/u-dot-s-dot-coal-stocks-slump-as-obama-win-seen-negative-for-industry

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/07/usa-campaign-energy-companies-obama-idUSL1E8M7BPD20121107

http://www.examiner.com/article/epa-planning-new-anti-coal-regulations-for-after-election

[Wat76]

Great discussions. 

[Bill Peckham]

Peter how does the natural gas boom figure into your war-on-coal narrative?

[KarenInWA]

Peter how does the natural gas boom figure into your war-on-coal narrative?

Makes me wish I had gas heat. I hate electric!!!

[Hemodoc]

Peter how does the natural gas boom figure into your war-on-coal narrative?

It is my understanding that much of the gas boom is related to fracking which Obama opposes. Will have to wait and see where that goes as well. Obama just shut down 1.6 million acres out west two days after the election.

http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/267095-interior-proposes-shielding-federal-lands-in-west-from-drilling

So, can't answer your question yet to see how Obama deals with fracking. I'm not very hopeful it will be positive if the above story is any indication. Wonder if Colorado would have voted for him if he had done this two days before the election.

[Bill Peckham]

Peter how does the natural gas boom figure into your war-on-coal narrative?

It is my understanding that much of the gas boom is related to fracking which Obama opposes. Will have to wait and see where that goes as well. Obama just shut down 1.6 million acres out west two days after the election.

http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/267095-interior-proposes-shielding-federal-lands-in-west-from-drilling

So, can't answer your question yet to see how Obama deals with fracking. I'm not very hopeful it will be positive if the above story is any indication. Wonder if Colorado would have voted for him if he had done this two days before the election.

I don't think the market cares how the President feels about extraction methods ... coal hit a artificially high price in 2007/08 and now it is down closer to its historic value, coal is loosing market share in large part because natural gas is plentiful and a better product. Coal is being exported but to generate US power we have better options. Coal use is declining. What you are calling a war, I would call market forces.

[Gerald Lively]

I just read that US oil production now, rivals Saudi Arabia.  Perhaps fracking will not be necessary.

[Rerun]

I think that was with fracking?

[duncan reamhiar]

PMSL... the thing everyone doesn't seem to realize.. good ole Barry is 1st and foremost a politician.. and 2nd he's a Chicago politician.. that speaks volumes right there...  any one who thinks Obama isn't as tainted as the rest of them is deluding themselves..

[Gerald Lively]

I should be President.

[duncan reamhiar]

'll vote for ye M8... ;>)... lol

[nursey66]

I hope Hillary can carry on. Obama was blocked repeatedly by Repubs that wanted him to fail from day one !  He still did pretty darn good in spite of it !  Personally, we are better off than 8years ago, more $ , SS checks keep coming, Medicare is great and affordable, RX are reasonable, gas is down, my kids and grandkids have great paying jobs, son is building a new house in the country on 10 acres to raise his 2 little boys up on, hubby got a great functioning kidney transplant in Sept 2015, and doing well, immunosuppressive drugs are less than 50 dollars a month with Medicare . Our young armed forces are not coming home in boxes by the hundreds like before ! Why would I want it to change

[Jean]

I did not vote for Obama, but I wanted him to succeed. He has not, even a little bit. The affordable Care Act is one of the worlds biggest jokes. 5 Billion or wait was it ONLY 5 Million dollars for a website that never worked right, fines and they are heavy ones for not being insured, and some how the county hospitals are still loaded and jam pack crowded. Any black child that was exceptional got to visit the white house. No white children evidently were exceptional the past 7 years. He did in fact fill nearly every opening in the WH with Muslims and refuses to acknowledge that ISIS is a terrorist group. In California, gas is the highest any where and nobody seems to know why. Social Security checks still come, but they have not gotten any larger, even tho buying food is an exercise in futility. His main objective in life seems to be golfing, no matter where he is and no matter what the public thinks of him. I realize I will probably be booed because of this post, but I no longer care. Peace Out!!

[iolaire]

I hope Hillary can carry on. Obama was blocked repeatedly by Repubs that wanted him to fail from day one ! 

That's my biggest worry.  We have seen how derogatory the right is towards Obama and that's only based on race.  With Hillary they have objectified her for 20+ years now and she is a woman etc...  I hate to see how she will get vilified and blocked at every move.

[PrimeTimer]

I did not vote for Obama, but I wanted him to succeed. He has not, even a little bit. The affordable Care Act is one of the worlds biggest jokes. 5 Billion or wait was it ONLY 5 Million dollars for a website that never worked right, fines and they are heavy ones for not being insured, and some how the county hospitals are still loaded and jam pack crowded. Any black child that was exceptional got to visit the white house. No white children evidently were exceptional the past 7 years. He did in fact fill nearly every opening in the WH with Muslims and refuses to acknowledge that ISIS is a terrorist group. In California, gas is the highest any where and nobody seems to know why. Social Security checks still come, but they have not gotten any larger, even tho buying food is an exercise in futility. His main objective in life seems to be golfing, no matter where he is and no matter what the public thinks of him. I realize I will probably be booed because of this post, but I no longer care. Peace Out!!

You won't hear any boos from me. 

[MooseMom]

I did not vote for Obama, but I wanted him to succeed. He has not, even a little bit. The affordable Care Act is one of the worlds biggest jokes. 5 Billion or wait was it ONLY 5 Million dollars for a website that never worked right, fines and they are heavy ones for not being insured, and some how the county hospitals are still loaded and jam pack crowded. Any black child that was exceptional got to visit the white house. No white children evidently were exceptional the past 7 years. He did in fact fill nearly every opening in the WH with Muslims and refuses to acknowledge that ISIS is a terrorist group. In California, gas is the highest any where and nobody seems to know why. Social Security checks still come, but they have not gotten any larger, even tho buying food is an exercise in futility. His main objective in life seems to be golfing, no matter where he is and no matter what the public thinks of him. I realize I will probably be booed because of this post, but I no longer care. Peace Out!!

I'd imagine that the reason gas is higher in CA is because CA is levying higher taxes.  I would also suspect that there is a lack of refining capacity in that state, so you may want to look at those numbers.

The amount of Social Security one receives is decided by Congress.  There is a GOP majority in both the House and the Senate, so direct your blame there.

I can't remember any president in recent times that was not criticized for his choice of recreation.  GWB was always criticized for clearing bush on his property in Texas, and even Reagan was criticized for seeming to always be on horseback on his ranch in CA.  No president is ever out of reach of important communication.

Really?  Whining about the color of the kids who go to the White House?  Special white kids have been going to the WH for decades, so I don't begrudge the little black ones who get to go.  I seriously doubt that the Obamas have declared the White House to be a "Blacks Only" zone.

It's nice that you wanted our duly elected President to succeed, but your desires didn't matter to Mitch McConnell and his cabal.  Ol' Mitch is about to reap what he has sown once Donald Trump lands in the Oval Office.  McConnell made no secret and even loudly declared what he would do anything it took to make sure that President Obama was a one term president.  He and his cronies broke America and divided us.  He is seditious, evil and God will make him pay for destroying America.

"Hope and Change" is what the American people voted for...TWICE.  But now all we can hope for is that the Republican party implodes (and it is already), and we really did get change, just not the change we wanted.  People whine that Obama has been the most "divisive" president.  But they are wrong.  Stand up, Mitch.  That honor is all yours.

President Obama filled most of the WH openings with Muslims?  Can you site your source for that?  Are you talking about cabinet posts, or are you talking about White House staffers?  Even if that's true, so what?  OMG, black kids and Muslim staffers in the WH!!!  I want my country back!!!

But let's focus on what is really important, like the color of the kids who have been invited to the White House. 

[Jean]

Whining about the color of the kids who go to the White House? Whining? Seriously? I dont begrudge the kids either, but when it is only the black ones, do you not think that is divisive? I do!! If you dont think the Obamas have declared the White House to be a blacks only zone, you are sadly mistaken. President Obama filled most of the posts in the White House with Muslims?? Yes, my dear, he did and as far as I am concerned, that is dead wrong and again, divisive.It is not that he appoints muslims and blacks, it is that it is Nearly all muslims and blacks  and that is a huge problem. There has also NOT been a GOP majority for 8 years!!!! Don't blame ALL of it on the Republicans. Once more, peace out!!!!

[Michael Murphy]

Oil products are higher in California due to two causes ,transport and refining capacity.  The only thing George Bush the lesser ever said that I agree with is that this country has a refining capacity problem we close me and haven't on penned any replacements.  Gas prices are based on supply of refined product.  With California clean air requirements there is not enough capacity in the remaining rifineries so the price is higher.  Plus the Rockies make pipeline transport more expensive.  All and all that's what drives California prices and why they will always be higher.

[MooseMom]

Whining about the color of the kids who go to the White House? Whining? Seriously? I dont begrudge the kids either, but when it is only the black ones, do you not think that is divisive? I do!! If you dont think the Obamas have declared the White House to be a blacks only zone, you are sadly mistaken. President Obama filled most of the posts in the White House with Muslims?? Yes, my dear, he did and as far as I am concerned, that is dead wrong and again, divisive.It is not that he appoints muslims and blacks, it is that it is Nearly all muslims and blacks  and that is a huge problem. There has also NOT been a GOP majority for 8 years!!!! Don't blame ALL of it on the Republicans. Once more, peace out!!!!

OK, Jean, since you have make the declaration that President Obama "filled most of the posts in the White House with Muslims", then you get to prove it.  Give us a list of all of the people he has given these posts to, and prove that they are Muslim.

Prove it.  Just prove it.

Oh, and while you're at it, give us a list of the all/only black kids who have been to the White House.

Here is your chance to show us all that President Obama is really a racist secret Muslim.  C'mon, I double dare ya.   

[MooseMom]

Here are some photos taken by official White House photographer Pete Souza.  They're both funny and touching. 

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/05/politics/gallery/president-obama-kids/index.html

And here is a look at who is in Obama's senior WH staff.  Maybe they are all Muslim, I don't know.  I guess you'd have to ask them.  Their contact info is available if you wish to submit a query.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/senior-leadership

You know, it is entirely fair to discuss/dispute/debate the policies of a sitting President, but to make such odd declarations and accusations about the color of visitors' skin and the faith of staff members is another thing entirely.  If you wish to discuss the ramifications of the TPP or another such topic, we can do that.

[Jean]

Seriously you think I have the time to go back and look at every thing written about Obama? Or the desire? To prove something to you? Or any one else. I am telling you what I see on the news, you know, ABC, CBS, and NBC?? I dont know what news you watch, but I can bet you would be hard pressed to name all the "White" folks he has appointed. Or had visit him. If he has an affair, its always on the news about who the entertainers are and okay, maybe only 9 out of 10 of them are black, but that is enough.He has divided this country in ways that it has not been divided since the Civil War. Violence and gangs are increasing daily. Pardon me for expressing my opinion. I forgot where I was at.

[Rerun]

It is still a free country so you can say what you want.  It is Bullying to make someone feel inferior to say what is on their mind.

Obama is white just as he is black.  People forget that.  He is the first black president?  No, Ben Carson would have been.  Too bad he got snuffed out.

[PrimeTimer]

According to the Obama Countdown Clock, he only has 307 days left and then needs to vacate the White House. I keep imagining scores of people showing up with dozen of moving trucks offering to move the Obamas free of charge. And then I've heard of those with the suitcases with painted signs on them saying "Pack up your sh*t and get out".  Oh man, that's harsh! But...that's the way it is. When his time comes to leave, he will have to leave. Just saying there will probably be plenty of volunteers willing to help him move out. Now cue in that Gloria Gaynor song "I Will Survive".   

[Michael Murphy]

People have a right to their own opinion, not to like Obama is a right. But in a free and honest discussion facts stated to make a point need to be verified.  There are several reputable fact checking sites on the internet checking with them you will discover many articles making claims of Muslims appointed by Obama. All seem to be discredited to some or all the facts.  There are I think 4 million Muslims in the US so that some may work for the government should not be a shock. In  1941 and 1942 the US government rounded up all Japenese in the a mainland US, sized their propetry and put them in Comcentration Camps.  This disgraceful page in US history was motivated by a fear that these people would do things to help Japan in the war.  In Hawaii the larger Japaese population was left alone.  The record clearly shows that the Islands Japanese population provided no assistance to Japan. And the US Army 442 regiment was composed entirely of Japanese American recruits.  Many members of this highly decorated unit had family in the Camps. 
  There are many claims that Obama Is.a Muslim or appointed Muslims but a check of the facts discredit all of these articles.  If you  believe them, that is your right, but in America calling in question facts is also a right.  Asking some one to name or list people who are Muslims in critical jobs appointed by Obama is not a attack but a legitimate question in a discussion.  The difference, the statement I think it's politician is a moron, a opinion, I think this politician has stolen public money, a fact and asking for proof is valid. 
  I don't like attacks on people that call in question their opinions, however facts need to be supportable.  The label on this thread includes thick skin required this should means statements will be questioned on facts but not opinions.