Obama threads here

[okarol]

Here's a section created for the threads related to Obama's inauguration.

[Wenchie58]

Bless you Karol!

[LightLizard]

Congatulations America!

There is a Golden Glow on the horizon today. Thank you America!
my joy in this comes from the realisation that the process of evolution is alive and very well. just 50 years ago, a black president would have been an impossibility.
yes, a lot of people will put a lot of hope on him, but it feels as if most are recognising that the change will come from within each and every one of us, he knows that and is quite willing to let us know he knows that. that is definitely not what we have come to expect from politicians. i believe we are seeing the re-definition of the term 'politician.'
that itself is reason enough for celebration.
i understand the need some may feel for caution, but we CAN let go of the past and embrace this moment as unique in history, and confirmation of the noble principles of equality and fairness that so many have spoken of, but few have delivered.
it has been delivered today, and we have good reason to expect more of the same.

 

 

[LightLizard]

well, its barely noon here, and your new president has begun the process of shutting down guantanamo bay, signed papers to make government transparent and make the freedom of information act available to everyone, he has frozen the wages of anyone working in the white house that makes over 100K, and has stated that he will end the ban on stem cell research. and his first day in office has just begun!

 

[David13]

    

[G-Ma]

 

[LightLizard]

It's official!
this morning the papers were signed by the appropriate people to free the  restrictions on stem cell research.
 

[G-Ma]

 

[Bill Peckham]

Here's a section created for the threads related to Obama's inauguration.

Why not just rename this Board "Politics"? What do the current discussions have to do with the inauguration celebrations? Or can politics return to "Off topic" where they were under Epoman's stewardship?

[Zach]

Why not just rename this Board "Politics"? What do the current discussions have to do with the inauguration celebrations? Or can politics return to "Off topic" where they were under Epoman's stewardship?

"Politics" is now in the Premium Member section.

[Bill Peckham]

Why not just rename this Board "Politics"? What do the current discussions have to do with the inauguration celebrations? Or can politics return to "Off topic" where they were under Epoman's stewardship?

"Politics" is now in the Premium Member section.

Isn't that more the 2008 election politics Board? It had to do with a particular event, it ran its course and then it was archived (for unclear reasons)
Now the inauguration has run its course shouldn't it be archived?

Healthcare politics will change the provision of dialysis in the US ... are they suppose to go here? Weird.

[Zach]

Perhaps.

 

[Bill Peckham]

With each day the name of this sub-board becomes more inappropriate. I just realized the Libya discussion is here - I view posts by viewing "Show unread posts since last visit" - it should have been refiled under the general Off Topic on March 3 after PK posted his poll.

Just change the name to "Politics" and move the Libya discussion ... 'war' is off topic but isn't suppose to be purely about politics

[Sluff]

I understand what you are saying Bill.  We don't rename topics for one and really none of the Mods really want to deal with politics, Obama period. As a courtesy we have this section available for those who want to talk about that subject. Personally I would just eliminate it completely, however it isn't about what I want, it is here for those who do want it.


Sluff/Admin

[lmunchkin]

I agree, Bill, this was about his inaguration, but it has turned more to "Politics"  Just makes me want to  or  .  But what can we do? Cause it seems the more we  about it, the more it falls on deaf ears!!!








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[Bill Peckham]

Thank you!
 

[okarol]

You're

[Gerald Lively]

On the election:

The Republicans were arrogant, they believed they were entitled to the Presidency, and engaged in the “big lie” so early that, ironically, they began to believe in those lies.  As a practical matter, the Republicans had nothing to run on, no mission or ideas that were uniquely their own.  They had the ghost of George W. Bush to reckon with but tried to ignore the legacy of Republican Presidents since the Nixon days, and all of this came to light with their adoption of the Tea Party who claimed Obama was a Muslim, was born in Kenya, was a communist, and was a socialist, and was simply out to destroy the US. 

For myself, the Republican/Tea Party denial of science was downright offensive.

This loss by the GOP is not the head-scratcher the GOPers think it is; they lost it on the mythology of the lie!

I found the following on Daily Kos.  It speaks volumes to the loneliness a candidate for President who has had the attention of at least half a nation and who expected to win, when an abrupt moment arrives and you suddenly feel a profound abandonment.:

At some point, early Wednesday morning, when Gov. Mitt Romney and family were tucked into bed, a quiet call went out on the radio channel used by his Secret Service agents: "Javelin, Jockey details, all posts, discontinue."

Of all the indignities involved in losing a presidential race, none is more stark than the sudden emptiness of your entourage. The Secret Service detail guarding Governor Romney since Feb 1. stood down quickly. He had ridden in a 15-car motorcade to the Intercontinental Hotel in Boston for his concession speech. He rode in a single-car motorcade back across the Charles River to Belmont. His son, Tagg, did the driving.

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[Rerun]

Well, we shall see.  Obama has a short timeframe to prove himself.  He can't keep blaming Bush forever.  Now it is up to him. 

Sounds like you are still blaming Nixon?  Geez 

[Bill Peckham]

Well, we shall see.  Obama has a short timeframe to prove himself. 

Prove himself by overseeing 30 months of private sector job growth? By lowering taxes? By providing all Americans access to healthcare? By shrinking the deficit? That would be great.


If only there was some way we could know what his policies would accomplish 

[jbeany]

I think Obama's already proved himself. 
The Affordable Care Act is law.  It starts in 2014.  He doesn't have to get anything approved for that.  There's no fighting it out in Congress.  It's done. 

The Frank-Dodd reforms are law.  His plans for Wall Street reforms are in place already.  They will be implemented over the next few years.
Romney would have repealed both of these things, but he didn't get the chance.

Romney also promised a law to make sure taxes didn't go up.  Obama doesn't have to pass a law to raise them.  It's already in place - the Bush tax cuts are expiring, along with a lot of other tax cuts.  All Obama has to do is let the current law go into effect.  It's up to him to decide what, if any, tax cuts he will extend, and to whom.

It's unusual that what Obama promised to accomplish could only happen if he was re-elected, but he's already done a great deal of what he promised to do.   

[Rerun]

Ok, so Obama and all of America will sit back and watch if everything is already in place. 

  (where did he popcorn smiley go?)

[Wat76]

Who is going to the inauguration,? I am.

[Hemodoc]

I think Obama's already proved himself. 
The Affordable Care Act is law.  It starts in 2014.  He doesn't have to get anything approved for that.  There's no fighting it out in Congress.  It's done. 

The Frank-Dodd reforms are law.  His plans for Wall Street reforms are in place already.  They will be implemented over the next few years.
Romney would have repealed both of these things, but he didn't get the chance.

Romney also promised a law to make sure taxes didn't go up.  Obama doesn't have to pass a law to raise them.  It's already in place - the Bush tax cuts are expiring, along with a lot of other tax cuts.  All Obama has to do is let the current law go into effect.  It's up to him to decide what, if any, tax cuts he will extend, and to whom.

It's unusual that what Obama promised to accomplish could only happen if he was re-elected, but he's already done a great deal of what he promised to do.

ELectric prices have not yet skyrocketted as Obama promised prior to his 2008 election, but once Obama shuts down the coal industry next year, they will. One more Obama promise to look forward to. Obama can do this all by himself through regulatory change alone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4

[Gerald Lively]

There it is; the “mythology of the lie” is still with us.  It seems the right-wing has yet to recognize that attempts to frighten the public, does not work.  Bronco Bama is not going to shut down the coal industry.

Nor is Jeep going to relocate in China; or is socialism coming to America, nor is Obama going to fill out his cabinet with Muslims.  Most observers recognized that the right-wing campaign for the presidency was based on a fictional series of untruths, lies actually.  Even the Romney staff admitted it, “There are no fact-checkers here!”.  Then in the last two weeks after the lies piled up and the media began to grow more militant, Romney refused to answer any questions, and, again, the Romney staff claimed it didn’t matter whether any allegation was true or not; the election would be over before anyone responded to these fabricated charges. 

Bronco Bama very carefully explained the diversity of the US energy, and coal production is a part of the picture.  Nope, the President is not going to shut down the coal industry.

It is strange to read a statement that Obama must prove himself.  In case anyone has forgotten, Obama has been around for four years and if it wasn’t for an obstructionist Congress, we would be out of this recession.  Besides, the American public liked what they saw in Obama and re-elected him.  That endorsement should instruct the objective observer that no further proving of ones-self is required.

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