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« on: August 17, 2014, 01:19:48 AM »
https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/kidney-dialysis-funding-cut-backs-announced-august2014?source=facebook-share-button&time=1408225678

Hope u can all see the link, I only read it via anothe kidney site about cuts !
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1982 - born with one imperfect kidney and no bladder, parents told i would not survive
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2007 - birth of son, gfr fall from 3O to 26
July2011 - birth of prem daughter, gfr 17%
August2011 - gfr drop to 10%
29th May2012 - RECEIVED KIDNEY 4/6 match from my wonderful dad !
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2014, 09:23:52 AM »
Had no idea about this.  Have now signed!

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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2014, 11:42:19 AM »
It was flagged up on a renal Facebook site, obviously renal disease is not important in the UK or newsworthy!!!
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1982 - born with one imperfect kidney and no bladder, parents told i would not survive
1984 - urostomy op
1990 - bladder built out of colon
2007 - birth of son, gfr fall from 3O to 26
July2011 - birth of prem daughter, gfr 17%
August2011 - gfr drop to 10%
29th May2012 - RECEIVED KIDNEY 4/6 match from my wonderful dad !
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2014, 01:05:43 PM »


Thank you Iainiepop to bring this paper to our attention.

I have been reading through this paper but I cannot quite comprehend what it is supposed to mean...?
(.... that might be connected with the fact that I am currently having a terrible flu and my high temperature makes my thinking a bit difficult)...
... but I do not comprehend where exactly NHS funding for dialysis is meant to be cut down...?
Is it the time of dialysis for each patient which is being cut down? Or does it mean a cut down on dialysis facilities in Britain...?
Or does it mean that transplants are "being pushed" forward a bit... to avoid dialysis for ESRF-patients?

Does anyone know what exactly is meant by this strange text...?

Does it not sounds a bit like "scare-mongering" ...?

Thanks from Kristina.
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2014, 11:06:30 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2014, 09:44:07 AM »
I have just read the article and cannot imagine what this will do to our current system? Will hospitals just stop providing dialysis? And wait for private companies to pop up. I suspect that if it is being done to save money we are in for a bumpy ride and lots of changes. It was kept very quiet, they were supposed to be consulting on this until 31st Dec!!!!
If anyone has any further info please let us know.
It is extremely worrying how they think they can save money on dialysis!

Apparently the CCG is set to take over all UK dialysis from April 2015.....
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2014, 11:17:19 PM »
http://www.kidney.org.uk/home/news-2/breaking-news-dialysis-to-lose-specialised-commissioning-status/

Saw this link update on Facebook yesterday. Not exactly sure how it will work though xxx
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1982 - born with one imperfect kidney and no bladder, parents told i would not survive
1984 - urostomy op
1990 - bladder built out of colon
2007 - birth of son, gfr fall from 3O to 26
July2011 - birth of prem daughter, gfr 17%
August2011 - gfr drop to 10%
29th May2012 - RECEIVED KIDNEY 4/6 match from my wonderful dad !
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2014, 08:52:39 AM »
And there I was thinking how difficult it would be to dismantle the NHS. Self-interest always wins, I wonder who is in all those advisory groups.



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1983 high proteinloss in urine, chemo, stroke,coma, dialysis
1984 double nephrectomy
1985 transplant from dad
1998 lost dads kidney, start PD
2003 peritineum burst, back to hemo
2012 start Nxstage home hemo
2020 start Gambro AK96

       still on waitinglist, still ok I think
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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2014, 03:22:06 AM »
Probably people who have shares in or are employed by companies with a vested interest in taking over bits of it!!!
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10 years of half a life
3 years HD 1st transplant Feb 08 failed after 3 months
Back to HD 2nd transplant Dec 10 failed after 11 months
Difficult times with a femoral line and catching MSSA (Thank you Plymouth Hospital)
Back on HD (not easy to do that third time around)
Fighting hard (two years on) to do home HD ... watch this space!
Oh and I am am getting married 1/08/15 to my wonderful partner Drew!!!
The power of optimism over common sense :)
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2014, 04:40:21 AM »
O yes, and 70 of them are sitting in Parliament too. What a democracy.

       

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I started out with nothing and I still have most of it left

1983 high proteinloss in urine, chemo, stroke,coma, dialysis
1984 double nephrectomy
1985 transplant from dad
1998 lost dads kidney, start PD
2003 peritineum burst, back to hemo
2012 start Nxstage home hemo
2020 start Gambro AK96

       still on waitinglist, still ok I think
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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2014, 06:58:32 AM »

Follow the money.  There is no profit in Government run healthcare.  By shifting to privately owned corporate care services can be restricted until the company shows a profit.  Upper management makes bonuses and underhandedly gives 'contributions' to political parties.

While the consumer prices rise until they can not afford services.

Sounds like this is spreading.

Pure corporaate greed.
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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2014, 08:59:36 AM »
We need a revolution brothers...vote the greedy Conservative b****** out of power :Kit n Stik;
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10 years of half a life
3 years HD 1st transplant Feb 08 failed after 3 months
Back to HD 2nd transplant Dec 10 failed after 11 months
Difficult times with a femoral line and catching MSSA (Thank you Plymouth Hospital)
Back on HD (not easy to do that third time around)
Fighting hard (two years on) to do home HD ... watch this space!
Oh and I am am getting married 1/08/15 to my wonderful partner Drew!!!
The power of optimism over common sense :)
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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2014, 03:21:20 PM »

The general public is too apathetic to bother to get out and vote.

corporate AND Legislature know that, and continue to pass laws enabling massive profit.

Until the public wakes up, and realizes nothing is going to change until EVERYONE gets out and votes,  they shouldn't have any complaints, they allow Corporate, and Legislature to do whatever they want.

I tell everyone this, family, friends, neighbors, co-workers (while I was still working).  Hopefully a few of them take it to heart and start voting, and pass the word on.
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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2014, 11:52:21 AM »
I think they should teach some politics in schools to get the youngsters to connect with the law making process.
Just some basics, the history of parliament, the different houses and how laws are made, how politics affects our daily life and to listen to talks by all the parties and debate the good and the bad.
Then they might be more likely to vote.
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10 years of half a life
3 years HD 1st transplant Feb 08 failed after 3 months
Back to HD 2nd transplant Dec 10 failed after 11 months
Difficult times with a femoral line and catching MSSA (Thank you Plymouth Hospital)
Back on HD (not easy to do that third time around)
Fighting hard (two years on) to do home HD ... watch this space!
Oh and I am am getting married 1/08/15 to my wonderful partner Drew!!!
The power of optimism over common sense :)
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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2014, 03:16:25 PM »
I used to think that too. I'm 'educated' in the Netherlands, and Politics used to be in obligatory in schools. However the turn out in election is poor. Maybe directness like in Switzerland is a solution?
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I started out with nothing and I still have most of it left

1983 high proteinloss in urine, chemo, stroke,coma, dialysis
1984 double nephrectomy
1985 transplant from dad
1998 lost dads kidney, start PD
2003 peritineum burst, back to hemo
2012 start Nxstage home hemo
2020 start Gambro AK96

       still on waitinglist, still ok I think
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« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2014, 04:36:52 AM »
How about compulsory voting or take away the vote from anyone who hasn't voted three years in a row!!!
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10 years of half a life
3 years HD 1st transplant Feb 08 failed after 3 months
Back to HD 2nd transplant Dec 10 failed after 11 months
Difficult times with a femoral line and catching MSSA (Thank you Plymouth Hospital)
Back on HD (not easy to do that third time around)
Fighting hard (two years on) to do home HD ... watch this space!
Oh and I am am getting married 1/08/15 to my wonderful partner Drew!!!
The power of optimism over common sense :)
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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2014, 03:17:04 PM »
Quote from: cassandra on December 15, 2014, 03:16:25 PM
I used to think that too. I'm 'educated' in the Netherlands, and Politics used to be in obligatory in schools. However the turn out in election is poor. Maybe directness like in Switzerland is a solution?

... Directness in Switzerland can create new problems by "not seeing the wood for the trees" sometimes ...
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  He was completion and fulfillment in itself, like a meteor which follows its own path.
                                        -   Robert Schumann  -

                                          ...  Oportet Vivere ...
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