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« on: April 13, 2013, 05:17:10 PM »

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324240804578416574019136696.html

For a Sick Friend: First, Do No Harm
Conversing with the ill can be awkward, but keeping a few simple commandments makes a huge difference.

'A closed mouth gathers no feet." It's a charming axiom, but silence isn't always an option when we're dealing with a friend who's sick or in despair. The natural human reaction is to feel awkward and upset in the face of illness, but unless we control those feelings and come up with an appropriate response, there's a good chance that we'll blurt out some cringe-worthy cliché, craven remark or blunt question that, in retrospect, we'll regret.

Take this real-life exchange. If ever the tone deaf needed a poster child, Fred is their man.

"How'd it go?" he asked his friend, Pete, who'd just had cancer surgery.

"Great!" said Pete. "They got it all."

"Really?" said Fred. "How do they know?"

A few simple commandments makes a huge difference when conversing with the ill.

Later, when Pete told him how demoralizing his remark had been, Fred's excuse was, "I was nervous. I just said what popped into my head."

We're all nervous around illness and mortality, but whatever pops into our heads should not necessarily plop out of our mouths. Yet, in my own experience as a breast-cancer patient, and for many of the people I have interviewed, friends do make hurtful remarks. Marion Fontana, who was diagnosed with breast cancer eight years after her husband, a New York City firefighter, died in the collapse of the World Trade Center, was told that she must have really bad karma to attract so much bad luck. In another case, upon hearing a man's leukemia diagnosis, his friend shrieked, "Wow! A girl in my office just died of that!"

You can't make this stuff up.

If we're not unwittingly insulting our sick friends, we're spouting clichés like "Everything happens for a reason." Though our intent is to comfort the patient, we also say such things to comfort ourselves and tamp down our own feelings of vulnerability. From now on, rather than sound like a Hallmark card, you might want to heed the following 10 Commandments for Conversing With a Sick Friend.

1. Rejoice at their good news. Don't minimize their bad news. A guy tells you that the doctors got it all, say "Hallelujah!" A man with advanced bladder cancer says that he's taking his kids to Disneyland next summer, don't bite your lip and mutter, "We'll see." Tell him it's a great idea. (What harm can it do?) Which doesn't mean that you should slap a happy face on a friend's grim diagnosis by saying something like, "Don't worry! Nowadays breast cancer is like having a cold!"

The best response in any encounter with a sick friend is to say, "Tell me what I can do to make things easier for you—I really want to help."

2. Treat your sick friends as you always did—but never forget their changed circumstance. However contradictory that may sound, I promise you can learn to live within the paradox if you keep your friend's illness and its constraints in mind but don't treat them as if their illness is who they are. Speak to them as you always did (tease them, kid around with them, get mad at them) but indulge their occasional blue moods or hissy-fits. Most important, start conversations about other things (sports, politics, food, movies) as soon as possible and you'll help speed their journey from the morass of illness to the miracle of the ordinary.

 3. Avoid self-referential comments. A friend with a hacking cough doesn't need to hear, "You think that's bad? I had double pneumonia." Don't tell someone with brain cancer that you know how painful it must be because you get migraines. Don't complain about your colicky baby to the mother of a child with spina bifida. I'm not saying sick people have lost their capacity to empathize with others, just that solipsism is unhelpful and rude. The truest thing you can say to a sick or suffering friend is, "I can only try to imagine what you're going through."

4. Don't assume, verify. Several friends of Michele, a Canadian writer, reacted to her cancer diagnosis with, "Well, at least you caught it early, so you'll be all right!" In fact, she did not catch it early, and never said or hinted otherwise. So when someone said, "You caught it early," she thought, "No, I didn't, therefore I'm going to die." Repeat after me: "Assume nothing."

5. Get the facts straight before you open your mouth.Did your friend have a heart or liver transplant? Chemo or radiation? Don't just ask, "How are you?" Ask questions specific to your friend's health. "How's your rotator cuff these days?" "Did the blood test show Lyme disease?" "Are your new meds working?" If you need help remembering who has shingles and who has lupus, or the date of a friend's operation, enter a health note under the person's name in your contacts list or stick a Post-it by the phone and update the information as needed.

 6. Help your sick friend feel useful. Zero in on one of their skills and lead to it. Assuming they're up to the task, ask a cybersmart patient to set up a Web page for you; ask a bridge or chess maven to give you pointers on the game; ask a retired teacher to guide your teenager through the college application process. In most cases, your request won't be seen as an imposition but a vote of confidence in your friend's talent and worth.

7. Don't infantilize the patient. Never speak to a grown-up the way you'd talk to a child. Objectionable sentences include, "How are we today, dearie?" "That's a good boy." "I bet you could swallow this teeny-tiny pill if you really tried." And the most wince-worthy, "Are we ready to go wee-wee?" Protect your friend's dignity at all costs.

8. Think twice before giving advice.Don't forward medical alerts, newspaper clippings or your Aunt Sadie's cure for gout. Your idea of a health bulletin that's useful or revelatory may mislead, upset, confuse or agitate your friend. Sick people have doctors to tell them what to do. Your job is simply to be their friend.

9. Let patients who are terminally ill set the conversational agenda.If they're unaware that they're dying, don't be the one to tell them. If they know they're at the end of life and want to talk about it, don't contradict or interrupt them; let them vent or weep or curse the Fates. Hand them a tissue and cry with them. If they want to confide their last wish, or trust you with a long-kept secret, thank them for the honor and listen hard. Someday you'll want to remember every word they say.

 10. Don't pressure them to practice 'positive thinking.' The implication is that they caused their illness in the first place by negative thinking—by feeling discouraged, depressed or not having the "right attitude." Positive thinking can't cure Huntington's disease, ALS or inoperable brain cancer. Telling a terminal patient to keep up the fight isn't just futile, it's cruel. Insisting that they see the glass as half full may deny them the truth of what they know and the chance to tie up life's loose ends while there's still time. As one hospice patient put it, "All I want from my friends right now is the freedom to sulk and say goodbye."

Though most of us feel dis-eased around disease, colloquial English proffers a sparse vocabulary for the expression of embarrassment, fear, anxiety, grief or sorrow. These 10 commandments should help you relate to your sick friends with greater empathy, warmth and grace.
—Ms. Pogrebin is the author of 10 books and a founding editor of Ms. magazine. Her latest book is "How to Be a Friend to a Friend Who's Sick," from which this essay is adapted.
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2013, 08:39:29 PM »

now THIS is good stuff!!! thank you for sharing!  somemore printing for me tonight  ;)
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2013, 09:52:05 PM »

Thank you Jbeany....
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2013, 05:57:53 PM »

Thanks Jbeany.  This is very helpful stuff! 
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2013, 06:14:30 PM »

Yep, yep, yep!
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2013, 08:03:35 PM »

Came across this earlier today -- somewhat along the same lines.

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-75241622/

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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2013, 08:14:05 PM »

EXCELLENT skg!!  I must say it hit me real good as just yesterday  :'( I even said to my dear hubby that he wasnt the only one who hurt... I felt bad after i said it and now, well, i know better and thank God he just hugged me and comforted me..  He doesnt need my sadness along with all he's going through right now.  I will watch the circle, and get hugs from you all here  ;) and hug him just cause he's loved :)
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2013, 07:03:51 AM »

Oh the Kvetching Circle or Ring Theory is a great visual, too.  Shared to me wall!
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2013, 08:07:33 PM »

Anyone remotely interested in this advice would be a true friend indeed ! In my experience dealing with a chronic illness "friends" disappear from your life at an astonishingly rapid rate !
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2013, 05:15:10 AM »

What I've discovered is that many of my friends form before I got sick faded into the background or away completely, but other new people came into my life while I was sick.  Now that I'm trying to get back in the "well" zone, the friends that have been with me through the worst of the sick times seem to be having a really hard time.  It's like they were more comfortable with the friendship when I was sick.  Maybe their role was more defined, I don't know, but it's weird and frustrating...
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2013, 03:06:59 AM »

I agree with some of this advice, but in the end I think these sorts of lists turn people off being around anyone who is seriously ill, and so advice like this is therefore part of the problem. I feel it is advocating an unrealistic perfection. I dare say that if I were trying to find information on how best to support a sick friend and I came across this article, I would burn out before I even began. I know on crisis lines people would call all the time asking how to help a suicidal person, and most were so terrified of mucking it up that they wouldn't say anything at all. I spent most of my time with those callers trying to boost their confidence and explain to them that ignoring the situation was probably the worst thing they could do. It's no wonder that people feel that avoiding a person in a health crisis is the safest way to go. How about a little praise for the people who are willing to risk making a mistake and try their best?

People say idiotic things all the time, when speaking on all subjects. Admitting that you were nervous and did not know what to say is not "an excuse", it's true! I wouldn't want to be around someone if I thought they would be judging me by the harsh standards of this article.

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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2013, 08:14:44 AM »

I completely and entirely agree with Cariad on this one.

I have had mere acquaintances say some pretty silly things to me.  They were obviously ignorant about CKD, but that's no sin.

I have also had family members who, when I was with them, didn't even ask how I was doing!  They completely ignored the fact that I was quickly heading toward dialysis, and this was despite the fact that three members of our family had already succumbed to ESRD after years on dialysis.  My family knew a LOT about dialysis.

I would take silliness and ignorance over complete silence any day, any time. 

The silliness made me laugh.  The ignorance gave me a chance to educate.  The silence was soul-destroying.

To echo cariad, I give praise and thanks to anyone who risks making a mistake and will still at least make an attempt to say a kind word.
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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2013, 07:10:39 PM »

the list was compiled from a book meant to help people with ill friends.  I think by the time you are reading a book on how to help, you are pretty wide open to suggestions.  The ones who need it most either won't read it or are certain it can't possibly apply to them!
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"Asbestos Gelos"  (As-bes-tos yay-lohs) Greek. Literally, "fireproof laughter".  A term used by Homer for invincible laughter in the face of death and mortality.

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