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« on: April 11, 2011, 06:29:25 AM »

My husband is on "lipitor" or Artovastin. Has been for 2 years. His cholesterol is at 2.5. It did not stop him from having a heart attack last month. He has arthritis in his right knee, wear and tear. Since taking this statin he complains about his legs  aching. The last two nights he "forgot" to take this pill and he slept like a baby with no pains keeping him awake. Nine months ago he told his neph about how his muscles ached and asked if it could be the statin, the answer was no, it could not. BUT COULD IT Any one out there with views about statins.
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2011, 08:19:55 AM »

A statin (Zocor) was what caused the final demise of my kidneys (I had 18% at the time my neph prescribed Zocor).  All the commercials say, "If you experience unexplained muscle pain or weakness, it is a sign of a rare but serious side effect."  That unexplained muscle weakness is rhabdomyolisis.  It took my 18% down to zero.  Once the drug was out of my system I came back to 11% and gradually declined from there to the 4% I've held for a few years now.  Yes, statins can do very bad things to the body.
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2011, 08:40:34 AM »

I had to get off Lipitor for the exact same reason.  My Dr., at first, said no you need to take it, so I did continue.  But Dr. started taking Lipitor and his legs hurt so he then changed me to another and I don't have the problem anymore.  I would push to get on a different drug.  I believe I am on generic for Zocor (simvastain) for over 2 yrs. now.
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2011, 09:12:21 AM »

I was on lipitor for many years with no problems, then I started to notice changes. I was training to walk the marathon and training was getting harder and harder. My legs felt like they were getting weaker, I was walking slower, and kept wanting to sit down and rest. I mentioned it to my neph and she took immediately too me off lipitor and I started to feel better. I'm on Zocor now. As my neph pointed out, your heart is a muscle, too. If lipitor was affecting the muscles in my legs, it could also potentially affect my heart.
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2011, 10:55:58 AM »

Muscle ache and pain can absolutely be a side effect of statins...Lipidil is what my husband has switched to since he had awful trouble with Lipitor.  I take Prevastatin, again a switch from Lipitor.
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2011, 12:07:27 PM »

Hmmmm....

I've had issues with RLS over the years but for the last year or so it has been barely noticeable. Then two weeks ago I start on Pravachol and my legs have started bothering me a lot. I started on the statins really against my better judgment but my wife thinks doctors are gods and of course whatever they prescribe MUST be right.  ::)

I think I'll secretly quit and see if things get better. (Did that once before with another statin a few years ago and I could feel the difference within days of quitting.)

 

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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2011, 06:34:50 PM »

While statins have been credited with increasing the life-expectancy of people overall, they are not at all without their side-effects.  My father has had to stop and switch twice now on his statins.  He still takes them because he has a family history of heart disease and high cholesterol. 

From the Mayo Clinic: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/statin-side-effects/MY00205

Doctors often prescribe statins for people with high cholesterol to lower their total cholesterol and reduce their risk of a heart attack or stroke. Most people taking statins will take them for the rest of their lives, which can make statin side effects difficult to manage.

For some people, statin side effects can make it seem like the benefit of taking a statin isn't worth it. Before you decide to stop taking a statin, discover how statin side effects can be reduced.

What are statin side effects?
Muscle pain and damage
The most common statin side effect is muscle pain. You may feel this pain as a soreness, tiredness or weakness in your muscles. The pain can be a mild discomfort, or it can be severe enough to make your daily activities difficult. For example, you might find climbing stairs or walking to be uncomfortable or tiring.

Very rarely, statins can cause life-threatening muscle damage called rhabdomyolysis (rab-do-mi-OL-ih-sis). Rhabdomyolysis can cause severe muscle pain, liver damage, kidney failure and death. Rhabdomyolysis can occur when you take statins in combination with certain drugs, or if you take a high dose of statins.

Liver damage
Occasionally, statin use could cause your liver to increase its production of enzymes that help you digest food, drinks and medications. If the increase is only mild, you can continue to take the drug. If the increase is severe, you may need to stop taking the drug, which usually reverses the problem. Your doctor might suggest a different statin.

If left unchecked, increased liver enzymes may lead to permanent liver damage. Certain other cholesterol-lowering drugs, such as gemfibrozil (Lopid) and niacin, increase the risk of liver problems even more in people who take statins. Because liver problems may develop without symptoms, people who take statins should have their liver function tested about six weeks after they start taking statins, and then again every three to six months for the first year of treatment, particularly if their statin dose is increased, or they begin to take additional cholesterol-lowering medications.

Digestive problems
Some people taking a statin may develop nausea, gas, diarrhea or constipation after taking a statin. These side effects are rare. Most people who have these side effects already have other problems with their digestive system. Taking your statin medication in the evening with a meal can reduce digestive side effects.

Rash or flushing
You could develop a rash or flushing after you start taking a statin. If you take a statin and niacin, either in a combination pill such as Simcor or as two separate medications, you're more likely to have this side effect. Taking aspirin before taking your statin medication may help, but talk to your doctor first.

Neurological side effects
Some researchers have studied whether statins could be linked to memory loss or amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), also known as Lou Gehrig's disease. Researchers have not found a link between statin use and either condition.

Who's at risk of developing statin side effects?
Not everyone who takes a statin will have side effects, but some people may be at a greater risk than are others. Risk factors include:

Taking multiple medications to lower your cholesterol
Being female
Having a smaller body frame
Being age 65 or older
Having kidney or liver disease
Having type 1 or 2 diabetes

What causes statin side effects?
It's unclear what causes statin side effects, especially muscle pain.

Statins work by slowing your body's production of cholesterol. Your body produces all the cholesterol it needs for digesting food and producing new cells on its own. When this natural production is slowed, your body begins to draw the cholesterol it needs from the food you eat, lowering your total cholesterol.

Statins may affect not only your liver's production of cholesterol, but also several enzymes in muscle cells that are responsible for muscle growth. The effects of statins on these cells may be the cause of muscle aches.

How to relieve statin side effects
To relieve statin side effects, your doctor may recommend several options. Discuss these steps with your doctor before trying them:

Take a brief break from statin therapy. Sometimes, it's hard to tell whether the muscle aches or other problems you're having are statin side effects or just part of the aging process. Taking a break of 10 to 14 days can give you some time to compare how you feel when you are and aren't taking a statin. This can help you determine whether your aches and pains are due to statins instead of something else.

Switch to another statin drug. It's possible, although unlikely, that one particular statin may cause side effects for you while another statin won't. It's thought that simvastatin (Zocor) may be more likely to cause muscle pain as a side effect than other statins when it's taken at high doses.

Change your dose. Lowering your dose may reduce some of your side effects, but it may also reduce some of the cholesterol-lowering benefits your medication has. It's also possible your doctor will suggest switching your medication to another statin that's equally effective, but can be taken in a lower dose.

Take it easy when exercising. It's possible exercise could make your muscle aches worse. Talk to your doctor about changing your exercise routine.

Consider other cholesterol-lowering medications. Ezetimibe (Zetia), a cholesterol absorption inhibitor medication, may be less likely to cause muscle pain than may statins, or may reduce muscle pain when taken with a statin. However, some researchers question the effectiveness of ezetimibe compared with statins in terms of its ability to lower your cholesterol.

Don't try over-the-counter (OTC) pain relievers. Muscle aches from statins can't be relieved with acetaminophen (Tylenol, others) or ibuprofen (Advil, Motrin, others) the way other muscles aches can. Don't try an OTC pain reliever without asking your doctor first.

Try coenzyme Q10 supplements. Coenzyme Q10 supplements may help to prevent statin side effects in some people. If you'd like to try adding coenzyme Q10 to your treatment, talk to your doctor first to make sure the supplement won't interact with any of your other medications.

Watch for drug interactions
Statins can have several potentially dangerous interactions with other medications and some foods. These interactions can make it more likely you'll have statin side effects. These include:

All statins and grapefruit or grapefruit juice. Grapefruit juice contains a chemical that makes statins more potent. This can be dangerous because it's uncertain what the effect would be on your total cholesterol. You should still be able to have some grapefruit or grapefruit juice, but talk to your doctor about limiting how much grapefruit you can have.

Simvastatin (Zocor) and amiodarone (Cordarone). People taking the statin simvastatin, either alone (Zocor) or in combination with ezetimibe (Vytorin) and amiodarone (Cordarone), a medication for irregular heart rhythms, are at a greater risk of severe statin side effects, such as rhabdomyolysis and kidney failure.

All statins and gemfibrozil (Lopid). People who take both gemfibrozil (Lopid) and a statin may be at a greater risk of statin side effects.

All statins and some antibiotic and antifungal medications. If you have a fungal or bacterial infection, be sure to tell your doctor if you take a statin.

All statins and some antidepressant medications. It's possible that taking antidepressants, such as nefazodone (Serzone), and a statin could make you more likely to have muscle aches.

All statins and some immunosuppressant medications. If you take a medication to suppress your immune system, such as cyclosporine (Sandimmune), and a statin you may be more likely to have muscle aches.Weigh the risks and benefits

Although statin side effects can be annoying, consider the benefits of taking a statin before you decide to stop taking your medication. Remember that statin medications can reduce your risk of a heart attack or stroke, and the risk of life-threatening side effects from statins is very low.

Even if your side effects are frustrating, don't stop taking your statin medication for any period of time without talking to your doctor first. Your doctor may be able to come up with an alternative treatment plan that can help you lower your cholesterol without uncomfortable side effects.

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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2011, 07:29:07 AM »

Thanks for that AguynamedKim, that was quite interesting.
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2011, 05:54:28 PM »

Sorry to blast you with such a long post but I really wanted to share that information with you and you never know when links are going to break so I followed the rules of posting.  Okarol is proud of me, I just know it.   :rofl;
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2011, 12:23:11 AM »

I also took simvastatin and complained constantly to my Dr about the muscle fatigue and my hands started to shake. He insisted it was no the statin drug, but next time my prescriotion ran out, I just did not get it filled. The muscle fatgue and the shaking hands stopped right away and my cholesterol level has not been changed one bit!!
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