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TynyWonder
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« on: October 23, 2008, 11:54:11 AM »

If you had to choose between a heartache or a bodyache to have to deal with for the rest of your life, TWENTY-FOUR/SEVEN which would you choose, a bodyache or heartache?
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2008, 12:04:02 PM »

Hi tyny  :waving;

This is an easy one.  For me at least.

Ill take the bodyaches  :Kit n Stik;   even the BAD cramping i had recently over heartache.
In the last year i have become an emotioanl wimp it feels like,  sometimes i think im going  :urcrazy;

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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2008, 12:07:21 PM »

I, too, would choose bodyache...also an easy one for me, Tammy.
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2008, 12:18:19 PM »

Body ache is the way to go for me as well.  At least there are things that can be taken to reduce the bodyache, heartache has no relief.  Besides heartache leads to other things such as depression.
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2008, 01:21:17 PM »

Body ache for me too.  Heartache is so painful, feels like it will never be better and can take over your whole life. 
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2008, 03:31:32 PM »

bodyache for me...Boxman
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2008, 03:39:12 PM »

I have to say that I'd take heartache if, and only if, ESRD is the bodyache I could avoid.  If the question means one or the other on top of the kidney failure, just shoot me now.  I think I'm generally pretty resilient and I seem able to cope with quite a bit but the only time I seriously considered ending my life was when I had a bone spur on one of my vertebrae, then surgery and months of recovery.  That grinding me down every second pain is the worst ache I've ever known in my life.
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2008, 03:42:52 PM »

You are so right, Paris!!!   A heartache does feel like it will never get better!   I had no reason for posting this question..........just something I thought of this morning.  I too, would much rather have bodyaches than to deal with a heartache.   Afterall, you *can* take pain meds for a bodyache which will hopefully make you feel *some* better.    I still remember my first heartbreak, it was horrible and I still remember that deep, down, dreadful feeling and I thinking it would never stop hurting.   Do you all remember your first heartache?   I say *first* because I am sure most of us has had more than one, but for me, that first one was the worst! :puke;
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I have had 2 grafts the last one finally "took"
I had 3 different catheters from Nov. 06 - Dec. 08
Got on the transplant list - Halloween Day 2008

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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2008, 03:43:29 PM »

body ache
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2008, 03:50:38 PM »

I'm a little embarrassed but also very glad to say that I've actually never had my heart broken so I might answer differently if I had.  I came a bit too close for comfort once but my heart got mended. 
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New upper-arm fistula April 2008
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(2 1/2 hours X 5 weekly)
Self-cannulated, 15 gauge blunts, buttonholes.
Living donor transplant (sister-in law Kathy) Feb. 2009
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2008, 03:52:04 PM »

You *might* think differently if you ever experienced a heartache, Monrein
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I have had 2 grafts the last one finally "took"
I had 3 different catheters from Nov. 06 - Dec. 08
Got on the transplant list - Halloween Day 2008

You can easily judge the character of others by how they treat those who they think can do nothing for them.    I BELIEVE THIS TO BE SOOOOO TRUE!
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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2008, 03:55:35 PM »

I think you're probably right TW. 
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Pyelonephritis (began at 8 mos old)
Home haemo 1980-1985 (self-cannulated with 15 gauge sharps)
Cadaveric transplant 1985
New upper-arm fistula April 2008
Uldall-Cook catheter inserted May 2008
Haemo-dialysis, self care unit June 2008
(2 1/2 hours X 5 weekly)
Self-cannulated, 15 gauge blunts, buttonholes.
Living donor transplant (sister-in law Kathy) Feb. 2009
First failed kidney transplant removed Apr.  2009
Second trx doing great so far...all lab values in normal ranges
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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2008, 05:08:48 PM »

A bodyache, anytime at all.
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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2008, 05:40:45 PM »

I think of heartache in terms of more than just romance.  Watching your child be diagnosed with tumors and not knowing what will happen or how you are going to help them cope, losing your parents, a child--things that are so painful and only time can make it better.   Good question, TW!
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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2008, 05:45:23 PM »

bodyache  for  me
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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2008, 04:52:29 PM »

Body ache. Heartache is so hard to live with.
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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2008, 08:50:44 PM »

I was going to say heartache until Paris brought up that heartache can be more than a romantic type.. I didn't think of having to watch a child or loved one suffer. If it was just a romance one, I'd take the heartache, but to watch someone suffer is more than I can bear.
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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2008, 09:56:52 PM »

bodyache
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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2008, 01:26:31 AM »

I am plunking for bodyache.  Some of us already have to live with lots of that, even if not 24/7.  But heartache like that, NO THANKS!!!

[I have never had a heartache that lasted more than a week, but even that is too much for me.]
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