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« on: March 29, 2015, 03:59:23 PM »

HEALTH
Learning to Say No To Dialysis
MARCH 27, 2015
by Paula Span THE NEW OLD AGE

Gerald J. Hladik was 74 when the day long anticipated by his doctors arrived:
His kidneys, damaged years earlier by a viral infection, had lost 85 percent of
their function.
Time to begin dialysis.
But from the beginning, Mr. Hladik resisted. An IBM retiree, he loved
fishing, boating and gardening — and hated hospitals. “He said, ‘I don’t want
to spend my time doing this,’ ” recalled his son, Dr. Gerald A. Hladik. “He
wanted to be at home with his dog. He wanted to be able to go to the beach.”
A nephrologist at the University of North Carolina School of Medicine, Dr.
Hladik understood better than most how kidney dialysis could consume a
patient’s days. His father’s eventful medical history included a serious stroke
and coronary bypass surgery.
“Dialysis may have prolonged his life, but I suspect only by a couple of
months,” Dr. Hladik said.
So after considerable discussion, Mr. Hladik decided to skip the three
weekly trips to a renal center, along with the resulting fatigue and dietary and
travel restrictions. His doctors managed his heart disease and hypertension
with drugs. He died at home in November, a year and a half after saying no to
dialysis.
People over age 75 are the fastest-growing segment of patients on dialysis,
and the treatment’s benefits and drawbacks add up differently for them than
for younger patients. A growing number of nephrologists and researchers are
pushing for more educated and deliberative decision making when seniors
contemplate dialysis.
It is a choice, they say, not an imperative.
“Patients are not adequately informed about the burdens. All they’re told
is, ‘You have to go on dialysis or you’ll die,’ ” said Dr. Alvin H. Moss, a
nephrologist at West Virginia University School of Medicine and chairman of
the Coalition for Supportive Care of Kidney Patients. “Nobody tells them, ‘You
could have up to two years without the treatment, without the discomfort, with
greater independence.’ ”
Dialysis involves filtering impurities from the blood when a patient’s
faltering kidneys can no longer do so. Originally a temporary stopgap for those
awaiting transplants, it has become the standard treatment for advanced
kidney failure. Fewer than 10 percent of patients opt for peritoneal dialysis,
which can be done at home. Most undergo hemodialysis at a center where
machines clean the blood and correct chemical imbalances.
Unquestionably, dialysis has helped save lives. The mortality rate for
patients with chronic kidney disease decreased 42 percent from 1995 to 2012,
according to the most recent report from the United States Renal Data System.
The picture for older patients, in particular, is less rosy. About 40 percent
of patients over age 75 with end-stage renal disease, or advanced kidney
failure, die within a year, and only 19 percent survive beyond four years, the
renal data system has reported. A primary reason is that older patients like
Mr. Hladik generally suffer from other chronic conditions, including diabetes,
heart disease and lung disease.
“Dialysis only treats the kidney disease,” said Dr. Ann O’Hare, a
nephrologist at the University of Washington School of Medicine. “It doesn’t
treat the other problems an older person may have. It may even make them
more challenging to deal with.”
Most older adults on dialysis die not from kidney disease, but from one of
their other illnesses. But dialysis profoundly affects the way those patients
spend their remaining months or years.
/29/2015 Learning to Say No to Dialysis - NYTimes.com
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Typical hemodialysis sessions take place three times a week, and each
lasts three to four hours, not including travel — a regimen Dr. O’Hare
compares to holding down a part-time job. Afterward, “patients may have
cramping. They can feel dizzy, washed out,” Dr. Moss said.
Many report pain or nausea. “A typical older dialysis patient will say, ‘I
just go home afterwards and go to bed,’ ” Dr. Moss said. After the good day
that usually follows, the cycle repeats.
Dialysis patients are frequently hospitalized. If they live in nursing homes,
their independence — as measured by the ability to eat, dress, use a toilet and
perform other daily activities — declines sharply. In this ailing population, one
study found, 58 percent died within a year of beginning dialysis.
“They’ve bought into a very intensive pattern of medical care that tends to
escalate towards the end of their lives,” Dr. O’Hare said. She was a co-author
of a study that found that 76 percent of older dialysis patients were
hospitalized in the final month of life; half were admitted to an intensive care
unit.
Do older people with advancing kidney disease really intend to sign up for
all this? If they hope to reach a particular milestone — a great-grandchild’s
birth, say — or value survival above all, perhaps so. But many express
ambivalence.
In a Canadian survey, 61 percent of patients said they regretted starting
dialysis, a decision they attributed to physicians’ and families’ wishes more
than their own. In an Australian study, 105 patients approaching end-stage
kidney disease said they would willingly forgo seven months of life expectancy
to reduce their number of dialysis visits. They would swap 15 months for
greater freedom to travel.
In real-world hospitals and nephrologists’ offices, of course, patients
aren’t offered such trade-offs. “People drift into these decisions because
they’re presented as the only recourse,” said Dr. V. J. Periyakoil, a geriatrician
and palliative care physician at Stanford University School of Medicine.
More conservative approaches to kidney disease do exist and can improve
older patients’ quality of life. Medication to control blood pressure, treat
/29/2015 Learning to Say No to Dialysis - NYTimes.com
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anemia, and reduce swelling and pain, “these are treatments that will keep
people comfortable for long periods,” Dr. Moss said. “People choosing medical
management could live 12 to 18 months, 23 months.” And spend less of that
time in medical facilities.
To weigh the pros and cons, however, kidney disease patients need better
information. Among 99 patients at dialysis centers in North Carolina, for
instance, two-thirds told researchers their doctors had not mentioned the
treatment’s risks or burdens. The same proportion said they felt they had no
choice.
But they do. And they can discontinue dialysis. Withdrawal from that
treatment accounted for about a quarter of deaths of dialysis patients in 2006,
according to a 2013 presentation to the American Association of Hospice and
Palliative Medicine.
In its contribution to the Choosing Wisely campaign, which identifies
procedures that physicians and patients should question, the American Society
of Nephrology cautioned, “Don’t initiate chronic dialysis without ensuring a
shared decision-making process between patients, their families and their
physicians.”
Otherwise, older patients may not fully grasp what lies ahead. When they
decide to discontinue dialysis, Dr. Moss said, “patients say to me, ‘Doc, it’s not
that I want to die, but I don’t want to keep living like this.’”

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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2015, 06:22:59 PM »

I don't know anyone in their right mind that would want to sign up for dialysis as they describe it above. However, that is not the way I,do dialysis and rarely if ever have any side effects as noted above. Elderly patients do benefit gravely from optimal dialysis options just as do the young. Good grief, I guess we are just supposed to go home and die in their minds. Great medicine options guys. Death or torment. Is there not another way? The answer is yes.
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2015, 07:21:53 PM »


I can agree with the line, "I am sick of living like this".  Which is exactly why I started dialysis at aged 60.  I was sick of being sick.  That was almost two years ago.  I have not been 'sick' since starting PD.  I expect to live a goodly number of years yet.  Do a lot of things. Meet a lot of people.  Watch my Grandsons grow up.  Dialysis allows me to do that.  I am Thankful for PD.

If I were to progress to hem, which is a very distinct possibility, my outlook may change, to some extent.  I don't know, and until it becomes necessary, I am not going to waste any time even thinking about it.

But I do understand how someone with other life threatening problems can choose not to begin dialysis.  Although I would want to be absolutely certain that they understand the possibility of PD.  Whether PD may be an option for them.  Most potential patients have no idea that PD exists.
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2015, 08:01:58 PM »

I began hemodialysis at age 23, and decided to look at life one-day-at-a-time.
And my career took off a few years after beginning dialysis.

Quality dialysis is essential plus some good luck. :)
I've had some real tough times a few years back, but I'm a fighter.

And now after 33 years of uninterrupted hemodialysis, I'm about to begin work on a new documentary--the 12th film in my career.
(You'll read about that later.)

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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2015, 08:29:06 PM »

Zach, you are one of the only people I know  who did not go the transplant route. I had two prior cancers including a melanoma one month after starting dialysis. Why did you choose the dialysis route and not go for transplant?
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2015, 09:37:27 PM »

Zach, you are one of the only people I know  who did not go the transplant route. I had two prior cancers including a melanoma one month after starting dialysis. Why did you choose the dialysis route and not go for transplant?

Hello Hemodoc,

I guess a glib (but true) reason was no work, no money.
I love what I do (except the fundraising) and if I had to take time-off for a transplant, say 6 months, I'd run out of money.

I made hemodialysis work for me.

At first, when my filming took me out of state, I dialyzed in several U.S. cities and a few in Western Europe -- also in Hong Kong and the Philippines.
More recently, I travel between treatments and meet my camera crew already filming at the location with my associate producer. When necessary, I travel to the west coast on a Sunday morning, work all day Sunday and Monday, and return on a 'red-eye' flight Monday night for hemodialysis Tuesday afternoon.  It works out fine.

I haven't had the need to travel internationally since the 1980's. 

I guess I'm lucky that only my kidneys failed.

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No transplant.  Not yet, anyway.  Only decided to be listed on 11/9/06. Inactive at the moment.  ;)
I make films.

Just the facts: 70.0 kgs. (about 154 lbs.)
Treatment: Tue-Thur-Sat   5.5 hours, 2x/wk, 6 hours, 1x/wk
Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
Fresenius 2008T dialysis machine
My KDOQI Nutrition (+/ -):  2,450 Calories, 84 grams Protein/day.

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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2015, 09:51:48 PM »

Thanks ZAch, still crazy after all these years. Looks like,you are going for the record.  God bless, Peter.
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Started  Home Care with NxStage 6-2-2009 (Qb 370, FF 45%, 40L)

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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2015, 05:46:59 AM »

Typical hemodialysis sessions take place three times a week, and each lasts three to four hours, not including travel — a regimen Dr. O’Hare compares to holding down a part-time job. Afterward, “patients may have cramping. They can feel dizzy, washed out,” Dr. Moss said. Many report pain or nausea. “A typical older dialysis patient will say, ‘I just go home afterwards and go to bed,’ ” Dr. Moss said. After the good day that usually follows, the cycle repeats.

I think this is an good description and why I don't think I'd ever move from my afternoon shift.  Why would you do it early in the day (if you have a choice) and go home to go to bed during the day, when you can do an afternoon shift and go home and go to bed for a nights sleep?  That helps to push the good day to a good day plus the dialysis day, which really means just a (potentially) not so good afternoon, evening and night.

(FYI: I find it much easier to have a good day after dialysis when traveling, somehow on travel after an initial burned out feeling for a few hours I end up having a fairly productive travel day.  Unlike work days where I drag all day after dialysis.)

I do think its fair to evaluate if this lifestyle is good for you.  I understand that it might not be good for less healthy or non functional people.  Its valid to let people think about what is best for them.  I do worry that articles like this make it sound like Dialysis is bad and people might dismiss it without knowing how bad it really is.

Also I take issue with these quotes, since I know you can figure out how to travel well on dialysis, and although the center would not like it the dietary restrictions are voluntary, I'm sure you could ignore them and still feel better than experiencing true kidney failure...
to spend my time doing this,’ ” recalled his son, Dr. Gerald A. Hladik. “He wanted to be at home with his dog. He wanted to be able to go to the beach.”
A nephrologist at the University of North Carolina School of Medicine, Dr. Hladik understood better than most how kidney dialysis could consume a
patient’s days. His father’s eventful medical history included a serious stroke and coronary bypass surgery. “Dialysis may have prolonged his life, but I suspect only by a couple of months,” Dr. Hladik said. So after considerable discussion, Mr. Hladik decided to skip the three weekly trips to a renal center, along with the resulting fatigue and dietary and travel restrictions. His doctors managed his heart disease and hypertension with drugs. He died at home in November, a year and a half after saying no to dialysis.
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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2015, 10:23:34 AM »

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I do worry that articles like this make it sound like Dialysis is bad and people might dismiss it without knowing how bad it really is.
I am annoyed by the way media depicts dialysis.  Every human interest story about a person waiting for a transplant talks about how bad dialysis is, and explains that dialysis patients are the walking dead.     I find that life is still pretty good, and the only reason I am on IHD right now is that I am waiting for a software install at the day job to complete.  Dialysis sucks, but it sucks a lot less than being confined to a nursing home because of MS and having your dog die (happened to a 55 year old woman in my wife's family), or having ALS and realizing that if you hang on long enough suicide won't even be an option as you will have lost the ability to do anything for yourself.   And then, there is the guy at work who went in for tonsil cancer surgery this AM.
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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2015, 05:33:11 PM »


Finding out how productive some of you are, working and traveling, getting things accomplished.  Is truly an inspiration to those of us that have not been on D very long.

Having lost a LOT of weight I am hoping to get out and about this year.  Gain a little strength back.  I used to be a monster, right now I feel more like a wimp.  No strength, no endurance.  But I am NOT sick any longer.  So PD has made a major change.  The rest is now up to me to get up off my tired butt and start moving again.

Thanks Guys!
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2015, 11:13:39 AM »

this subject has been on my mind for a long time. I am now 76, with a GFR of 31, which is 2 points higher than when I was first diagnosed, 7 years ago. I dont want to be 80 years old when it comes time to start D. However, I am not ready to give up yet. I dont feel the decision is imminent, even tho my GFR dropped to 16 a few months back. Even tho I am in a great deal of pain, due to Arthritis and a bad back,  I still think like a teenager and act like a 20 year old. It is really a tough decision and any and all input is welcome.
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2015, 01:13:28 PM »

It sounds rather cliché but I believe that the choice of 'saying no to dialysis' and openly facing end of life issues is a very personal one.  While it is recommended to examine these decisions firstly with others, I think the real answers come at a time when you're alone and engaged in deep self-reflection.

There is no doubt that dialysis is difficult and a tough position to be in especially when one is elderly.  If one feels that they can sufficiently say they are happy with their lives and dialysis would be too much, it is understandable if they want to say no to dialysis.  If there are other serious health conditions that may impede on quality of life, again, it is understandable if someone does not want to do dialysis.

There is also the concern of ageism in that if someone is older, they should accept that their life is fulfilled and it's time to simply fade away.  I wholeheartedly do not agree with this.  I have three elderly relatives (grandfather and aunts) that are thriving on hemodialysis.  My grandfather started before he turned 80 and it has been smooth sailing for him.  (Well, once he learned to stay within salt and fluid restrictions!)  It has extended his life not for the sake of being alive but to be able to be an active member of society.  Without him accepting to go on dialysis, he would have lost out on 9 years of his life where he has traveled, goes to dances, is still extremely vain, follows footy scores, educates younger people and has a social life.  The day after dialysis he feels wonderful and he goes round the shops, goes walking to the park or visiting.  Actually, the morning before dialysis, he's usually up with the birds getting ready and the day after, he's an energy ball.  Besides being bored during the sessions and tired afterwards, he's quite energetic.  While dialysis may "stink" generally, I think with the proper education an older person can decide if they want to handle it or not.  It's true that it is easier with caregivers at home and that might be a concern if an elderly person doesn't have support.  I think the point I am trying to make here is that life still remains if the body has aged.  If dialysis enables someone to continue their life, even in advanced age, there should be no qualms about elderly deciding to receive treatment.  (Also, the person needs a clear mind.  It would be unfair to make the decision for someone lacking cognitive abilities ie/ dementia to be on dialysis if they did not understand.)

Those that bring up economic factors (as they are always brought up concerning an aging population) need to re-examine some other health and social funding before they disapprove of someone wanting to have dialysis treatment.

I think that if someone is in good health and wants to receive dialysis, all power to them.  Since when does life stop at a certain age?  If someone can be a peace with the state of their life and their condition, that is all that matters to them.

Yeah, yeah, I'll shut my trap now.
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2015, 02:34:28 PM »

I began hemodialysis at age 23, and decided to look at life one-day-at-a-time.
And my career took off a few years after beginning dialysis.

Quality dialysis is essential plus some good luck. :)
I've had some real tough times a few years back, but I'm a fighter.

And now after 33 years of uninterrupted hemodialysis, I'm about to begin work on a new documentary--the 12th film in my career.
(You'll read about that later.)

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Just as I start feeling myself go from "worry" to "panic" mode over my husband's ESRD, I read posts from you and other experienced dialysis pros and it brings the fear factor down a notch. Thanks.
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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2015, 05:19:24 PM »

I began hemodialysis at age 23, and decided to look at life one-day-at-a-time.
And my career took off a few years after beginning dialysis.

Quality dialysis is essential plus some good luck. :)
I've had some real tough times a few years back, but I'm a fighter.

And now after 33 years of uninterrupted hemodialysis, I'm about to begin work on a new documentary--the 12th film in my career.
(You'll read about that later.)

 :beer1;

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New kidney in a paired donation swap July 26, 2017.
Her story ---> https://www.facebook.com/WantedKidneyDonor
Please watch her video: http://youtu.be/D9ZuVJ_s80Y
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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2015, 02:20:06 PM »

I know tat dialysis is a choice.  Presently I don't like the other choice.  However my parents both died ugly, my father from lung cancer and my mother from binswangers.  I know that if I ever get a diagnosis of a terminal illness I will get my affairs in order and stop dialysis.  I saw my parents suffer and I plan on taking the easy way out. I hope that is a event in the far future but I actually find the fact that I have a back doors out of a terminal illness comforting.  It also makes dialysis easier since I do have a choice.  Besides I want to see the las three star war movies.
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« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2015, 05:42:55 AM »

Man, you could almost hear a violin playing in the background behind that story.....

OK, here's a true story, about a man I knew about 30 years ago, who was on dialysis. I used to drive dialysis patients to treatment, and Bud was one of my occasional patients. He was about 90 years old, a retired trucker, who had experienced kidney failure only after several years of retirement. He live with his son, in a separate house on the property, and spent his free time fishing with his dog. Even at his great age, he still occasionally drove himself to dialysis, which, in this case, was about a 20 mile round trip. He had a ratty old 70's compact, with a stick shift, too.

On the days that he let us take him in, I heard many stories about his days diving trucks, back in the 1920's, about smuggling bootleg booze during prohibition, floating craps games, roadhouses, and such. He lived a wild, hard life, but eventually settled down, worked hard, raised a family, and, eventually, retired. Somewhere along the way, he became a widower. His hard living caused him quite a few medical problems, but he took them with quiet resolve, and always came out for the best. Now he was about 90, still going, still sharp, still reasonably independent.

I lost track of Bud when the company I worked for lost the contract, but my mom vaguely knew him, and I heard that a year or so later, he quietly died of a heart attack in his sleep, probably with his dog sleeping next to him.
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« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2015, 06:59:38 AM »

this subject has been on my mind for a long time. I am now 76, with a GFR of 31, which is 2 points higher than when I was first diagnosed, 7 years ago. I dont want to be 80 years old when it comes time to start D. However, I am not ready to give up yet. I dont feel the decision is imminent, even tho my GFR dropped to 16 a few months back. Even tho I am in a great deal of pain, due to Arthritis and a bad back,  I still think like a teenager and act like a 20 year old. It is really a tough decision and any and all input is welcome.

Hi Jean,

Monthly check-ups discovered this maybe?
Take any car in for work and a good mechanic will find something that can be fixed or improved no matter the age of the vehicle.
If you are 76 and virile and otherwise showing no symptoms of ESRD, I'd tell them to take that creatinine report and wipe their bum-bums with it.
I started Big D at US GFR 3, and frankly, to have 20-30% kidney function at your age is nothing I would worry about.
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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2015, 12:56:45 AM »

Oh yes, I am thrilled to have the 32 GFR. I still get tired often, but I also take pain killers and I am old, so not too much to worry about there. I am hoping I can hang in there 4 or 5 years until I am about 80 and decide then. We will see, won't we?
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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2015, 05:11:52 AM »

I began hemodialysis at age 23, and decided to look at life one-day-at-a-time.
And my career took off a few years after beginning dialysis.

Quality dialysis is essential plus some good luck. :)
I've had some real tough times a few years back, but I'm a fighter.

And now after 33 years of uninterrupted hemodialysis, I'm about to begin work on a new documentary--the 12th film in my career.
(You'll read about that later.)

 :beer1;


Thank you Zach, you are certainly a great inspiration !
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« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2015, 04:28:10 PM »

Zach IS an inspiration and treats his D session as a visit to the day Spa. Hard to realize, is it Zach or is it the center? I think it's Zach.
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