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« on: September 14, 2013, 10:39:48 AM »

For those on hemo dialysis , whether in center, home , day, or nocturnal,  I would like to know what your blood speed generally runs. Since I posted the article on speed, I realized I dont know what most people run for speeds. I am also interested in where you are , as there were differences in the article I read based on countries. Also if you know what your access and venous pressures are at that speed, please give it. We can all learn from this . Perhaps also give your treatment time with that speed.
1.Speed
2. pressure access
3. pressure venous
4. time of treatment
5. location
6. type of dialysis(in center, home , day, nocturnal, other)(if home give the type machine you use)
Thank you. I think this could benefit us all.
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Any posting here should be used for informational purposes only . Talk to your own doctor about treatment decisions.
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2013, 01:44:59 PM »


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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2013, 03:59:29 PM »

AVF
1. Speed 280
2. Arterial -40/50
3. Venous 140/180
4. 2 hrs 30
5. UK

home hemo on Nxstage unaided
Kt/v 2.77
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I started out with nothing and I still have most of it left

1983 high proteinloss in urine, chemo, stroke,coma, dialysis
1984 double nephrectomy
1985 transplant from dad
1998 lost dads kidney, start PD
2003 peritineum burst, back to hemo
2012 start Nxstage home hemo
2020 start Gambro AK96

       still on waitinglist, still ok I think
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2013, 04:08:47 AM »

AV graft
Blood flow rate- 450
Arterial- 170
Venous- 210
USA
In-centre self care
Fresenius 2008K
kt/v- 1.5
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-Diagnosed with ESRD (born with one kidney, hypertension killed it) Jan 21st, 2007
-Started dialysis four days later in hospital (Baxter 1550-I think, then Gambro Phoenix)
-Started in-centre dialysis Feb 6th 2007 (Fres. 2008H)
-Started home hemo June 5th 2007 (NxStage/Pureflow)
-PD catheter placed June 6th 2008 (Bye bye NxStage, at least for now)
-Started CAPD July 4th, 2008
-PD catheter removed Dec 2, 2008-PD just wouldn't work, so I'm back on NxStage
-Kidney function improved enough to go off dialysis, Feb. 2011!!!!!
-Back on dialysis (still NxStage) July 2011 :(
-In-centre self-care dialysis March 2012 (Fresenius 2008K)
-Not on transplant list yet.


"Don't live for dialysis, use dialysis to LIVE"
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2013, 09:27:24 PM »

AVF
1. 450
2. 180
3. 180
4. 2 1/2 to 3 hours
5. USA
6. Home hemo with NxStage

Kt/v  2.2 - 2.7

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PKD diagnosis at 17
Cancer May 2011, surgery and no further treatment but placed on 2 year wait for transplant
October 2011 first fistula in left wrist
April 2012 second fistula in upper arm, disconnect of wrist
January 2013, stage 5 ESRD
March 2013 training with NxStage home hemo
April 2013 at home with NxStage
April 2013 fistula revision to reduce flow
May 2013 advised to have double nephrectomy, liver cyst ablation and hernia repair. Awaiting insurance approval to begin transplant testing. Surgery in June.
June 2013 bilateral nephrectomy.
August 2013 finishing testing for transplant, 4 potential donors being tissue typed.
January 2014 husband approved to donate kidney for me
March 4th 2014 received transplant from awesome hubby. Named the new bean FK (fat kidney) lol!  So far we are doing great!
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2013, 05:57:19 AM »

1. 400
2. don't have a pressure pod
3. 150 with a catheter
4. 8 hours
5. VT, USA
6. Nocturnal NxStage

Kt/v was 4 something last month.
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April 2007 - Myself and sister also diagnosed with Senior-Loken Syndrome (Juvenile Nephronophthisis and Retintis Pigmentosa)

Since then, I've tried PD three times unsuccessfully, done In-Center hemo, NxStage short daily, Nocturnal NxStage, and had two transplants.  Currently doing NxStage short daily while waiting for a third transplant.

Married Sept. 2011 to my wonderful husband, James, who jumped into NxStage training only 51 days after our wedding!
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2013, 06:54:04 AM »

AVF
BFR 450
Art 200-240
Ven 220-260
4 Hr T&T 4.5 Hr S
MS, USA
Incenter Self Care

Kt/V 1.5-1.6
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2013, 01:13:36 PM »

AVF
BFR 450 - 500
Art 200-249
Ven 190 -260
2 3/4 - 3 Hrs 5/weekly
NY, USA
Home - NxStage Short-term daily
Kt/V 2.0-2.2

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Dailysis patient for since 1999 and still kicking it strong.  I was called for a transplant but could not get it due to damage veins from extremely high blood pressure.  Have it under control now, on NxStage System but will receive dailysis for the rest of my life.  Does life sucks because of this.  ABOLUTELY NOT!  Life is what you make it good, bad, sick, or healthy.  Praise God I'm still functioning as a normal person just have to take extra steps.
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2013, 02:33:17 AM »

For those on hemo dialysis , whether in center, home , day, or nocturnal,  I would like to know what your blood speed generally runs. Since I posted the article on speed, I realized I dont know what most people run for speeds. I am also interested in where you are , as there were differences in the article I read based on countries. Also if you know what your access and venous pressures are at that speed, please give it. We can all learn from this . Perhaps also give your treatment time with that speed.
1.Speed
2. pressure access
3. pressure venous
4. time of treatment
5. location
6. type of dialysis(in center, home , day, nocturnal, other)(if home give the type machine you use)
Thank you. I think this could benefit us all.

Since you are the opening poster, what are your wife's stats?

1. 315
2. arterial:  -120 to -140
3. venous: 160 to 190
4. 6 hours
5. USofA
6. incenter

HDP - 54
Kt/V - 3.13
URR - 91%

My wifes numbers:  On Fistula (forearm)
Speed 360
arterial 120
venous 210(drops later in treatment to 190)
Time 2 hours 45 minutes
Location : At Home
Type: NxStage . Recently switched to 6 days per week .  Use 20 liters of dialysate
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NxStage since June 2012 .
When not doing dialysis I am a physician ,for over 25 years now(not a nephrologist)

Any posting here should be used for informational purposes only . Talk to your own doctor about treatment decisions.
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2013, 11:00:15 PM »

http://www.homedialysis.org/life-at-home/blood-pump-speed-and-your-dialysis-fistula

I think this article is new (or maybe I missed it), re: blood pump speeds from Dr Agar or for more international comparisons look for DOPPS data, for instance http://ndt.oxfordjournals.org/content/28/suppl_1/i226.abstract
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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2013, 03:19:51 AM »


1.Speed      450 BFR
2. pressure access   -240
3. pressure venous  210
4. time of treatment   4hr 15min
5. location  Virginia USA
6. type of dialysis(in center, home , day, nocturnal, other)(if home give the type machine you use)   In center 3 days a week
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