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[obsidianom]

MY wife is the great niece of Sir Louis Sterling. Look him up on google. He gave millions to your country in charitable donations and gifts. There is an entire library collection at the University of London named for him and his donations of rare manuscrips. Some of them are Shakespeare original folios from the 1600s. He was knighted by King George , Queen Elizabeths father.
There was just a big controversy about selling some of his donated works privatly and we helped stop it.
My wife has kidney disease and is on NxStage dialysis but still hangs tough and was able to help stop some idiots in England from ruining the library and the rare books.

[Rerun]

Off topic should not mention "D".  I'll let it go for now.  What do you want to know from Those in England? 

  

[obsidianom]

I was  just interested if any of our British members had heard of the controversy about the sale of the Shakespeare folios . It was written about in the London times and on the BBC. Aparantly it was a big controversy and people from all over the WORLD wrote in about it. It all occurred in the last few days and ended yesterday when the outcry from all over the world stopped the sale.
i just thought it was interesting that it was my wifes great uncle who donated the folios to the University of london and intended them to be for permananent display and not for sale. He was a special man and did a lot for mankind including donating over a half million pounds for cancer research , and saved many lives in WW2 by buying the way out of pre war Germany for many Jews to come to England before they were killed by the Nazis.
In addition he helped found Columbia records and then EMI which began the modern record industry. He helped start modern TV in the 1940s.
The best thing is he gave back over 500,000 pounds to HIS WORKERS at Columbia records to thank them for their hard work to build the company. He included everyone down to the janitors.
When we all talk about the profits the dialysis companies make with little regard for the patients, I think of Sir louis Sterling and how he built a very successful company and never forgot how it ocurred and paid back the people who did the work. He proved profits can exist with human decency. He saw that giving back is what humans should do.
My wife is like that too. I am proud of her and her family.

[Rerun]

That is pretty awesome.  Can we have a link to some world news about these papers?

 

[obsidianom]

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Future bequests to University of London and its reputation could be damaged if it goes ahead with planned sale of some of Shakespeare’s earliest folios, leading academics warn.
 
Academics have criticised plans by the University of London to sell some of Shakespeare's works Photo: ALAMY
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Senate House believes it could make £5million by selling the set of four folios at an auction – despite being given them on the condition they are permanently housed in the library.

Academics have criticised the plan and branded it “an act of stupidity of the highest order”, saying no two folios are likely to be the same because of the way they were printed and then corrected.

The set contains each of the four editions of Shakespeare's collected plays that were published in the 17th century, including a copy of the First Folio, which is regarded as the most reliable source.

The folios were bequeathed to the university's Senate House Library by Sir Louis Sterling, an American philanthropist, when he died in 1958.

Christopher Pressler, director of the library, told The Times the folios could be sold to make money for the library to buy manuscripts from the 20th and 21st centuries, as they were ‘duplicates’ of others the library holds.

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But Sir Brian Vickers, a visiting professor at University College London, said no two books could be identical because of the practice of printing them and correcting them. He said: “One of these copies may contain a correction that has puzzled people for many years and has never been solved. So to sell them is an act of stupidity of the highest order. These are invaluable documents for research purposes."

Henry Woudhuysen, rector of Lincoln College at the University of Oxford, also warned the university would damage its integrity and jeopardise future bequests if it went ahead with the sale, planned to take place at Bonhams in November.

He said he feared a very rich private buyer was likely to buy the folios, and thought there was little chance these would be purchased by a library.

A spokesman for the university said the sale was just a proposal so far as they sought to expand their historical collections, and they were holding consultations about the plans. He said feedback had so far been “vociferous” and the sale in November had been put on hold.

He said: £The Folios in question form part of the private collection of rare and first editions given to the University by Sir Louis Sterling in 1956. They comprise the first, second, third and fourth edition Folios, dated 1623, 1632, 1664 and 1685, in early 19th century bindings. The University’s seven other Folios , some in original 17th century bindings , are not under consideration and would remain in the Library.

"The money raised from any sale would be used to invest in the future of the Library by acquiring major works and archives of English literature.

"No decision on a sale has been reached at this stage and the University has begun consulting with the academic community. A recommendation will go to the Board of Trustees in October, after taking into account the views of a wide range of scholars, academic organisations and other libraries."

 
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 bramhall
09/04/2013 06:20 AM

I am surprised that selling these manuscripts was even considered.
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 nogginthenog
09/04/2013 01:39 PM

They are printed books, not manuscripts (no Shakespeare manuscripts exist) , but you are right to be surprised.  Selling these would be cultural vandalism.

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 Veronica
09/04/2013 05:56 AM

I would have thought it illegal given the conditions set out; but then what do I know.
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 nogginthenog
09/04/2013 02:00 PM

Sadly, it is quite common for universities these days to seek to break the terms of a bequest made decades ago if they now think they can use the money in other ways. This is what comes of the universities, like the NHS, having been taken over by managers.

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 ahmedressam
09/04/2013 05:54 AM

Christopher Pressler should be sacked as he is clearly not doing his job properly.

Protect and conserve the existing collection, and scan and put these artefacts online for goodness' sake so that everyone with an internet connection and the interest can view the Shakespeare folios...Why sell precious and unique C17th artifacts in order to enhance a modern collection of manuscripts? "Selling the family silver" in this way is bizarre and illogical, no doubt the work of yet another faceless suit taking decisions on behalf of future generations...
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Senate House Library in the University of London is an outstanding scholarly resource that has benefited greatly from the generosity of individual benefactors. It is repaying one of its donors with boorish and philistine ingratitude.
 
Sir Louis Sterling, an industrialist, assembled a private library of more than 4,000 rare and first editions and donated them to Senate House in 1956. The collection specialises in literature from the 18th to the 20th centuries but also includes the four folios of Shakespeare’s collected works and first editions of Milton’s Paradise Lost and Paradise Regained. At least, it does for now. Senate House
 





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[Poppylicious]

I've never heard of him, but he does sound like a very generous chap.

I hadn't heard of the controversy either, or the outcry (and as a BBC news loving English girl I keep up with the news thrice-daily using the BBC news.)

Let me be the first to apologise profusely to your wife on behalf of English Folk everywhere for any upset this may have caused.

 

It's interesting that you mention he was knighted by King George because if my (non-direct) ancestors had had their way, Queen Elizabeth wouldn't have existed at all.

Ever.

But George would have so the knighting would still have taken place.

 

[Sugarlump]

I have to say I haven't read anything on this either and I read the concise edition of The Independent most days.
It does seem an odd decision to make.
If someone bequeath.s something to a library it should stay there.