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Gerald Lively
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« on: March 06, 2013, 10:42:21 PM »

Economist Dean Baker poses a depressing question: "Medicare Cost Reductions: Is the Point to Save Money or Inflict Pain?" It's also a good question. As he points out, Medicare costs are already falling.
 
Today one of the central stumbling blocks to a budget deal appears to be President Obama's reluctance to make cuts to Medicare that would inflict serious pain on beneficiaries.

 The fact that Medicare poses such a stumbling block is striking because we have already seen sharp declines in the projected cost of Medicare over the years in which President Obama and Congress have been fighting over the deficit. The Congressional Budget Office has lowered its projections for Medicare costs over the years 2013-2023 by $400 billion compared with what was projected back when Bowles-Simpson put together their initial budget proposal. That proposal called for a bit more than $300 billion in cuts to Medicare, less than the reductions in projected spending that we have already seen.
 
Furthermore, CBO has not reduced its projections by as much as cost growth has slowed in the last three years.
 It's hard to say whether the Republicans really want to cause pain to old people. That's probably just a side benefit for the majority of them, though the true Randian teabaggers, and Alan Simpson, would dearly love to punish some moochers. But, I think that's less of a motivator than trying to force Democrats into making steep and highly unpopular benefit cuts, cuts that the Republicans can then turn around and use against them in attack ads.
 It's a trap they're setting with an assist from the Very Serious People, the centrists and Third Way types who are useful tools of the Republicans, and who have too strong a hold on the imagination of Democrats. The reality is there are plenty of other ways to reform Medicare, and Social Security for that matter, that don't involve pain on the people who can't afford it. But pain is what they want, without seemingly realizing that it really is going to hurt people, lots of people. Which is exactly what the Republicans are counting on!
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2013, 11:19:37 AM »

Pain is a very powerful motivator. Just watch any B movie and you'll find some sort of torture being used to get information out of the protagonist.

I'm sure you've also experienced the school budget process. Whenever the school board proposes a new budget with increases it inevitably will get vetoed by the community. Then as to be expected the doomsday contingency plan is unveiled which will cut programs. Of course the programs which are selected to be cut  are those which the are most popular. They aim to imply a great deal of pain if the budget isn't passed. In the end more often than not the budget gets passed.

What is most frustrating is how our elected officials behave with such impunity whether on the local or Federal level. Coupling that with how they manipulate numbers to fit their own agenda. Somewhere in this whole process the voting public gets lost. What may be more angering is that we do have a voting public albeit terribly ignorant.

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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2013, 11:49:43 AM »

Here's an interesting piece from The New York Times:

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/06/the-war-on-entitlements/

The War On Entitlements
By THOMAS B. EDSALL
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2013, 06:21:53 PM »

My concern about Medicare cutsbacks is that most dyalisis patients depend on Medicare, at least I think they do.   Severe cuts to Medicare may leave a significant number of patients who depend on dialysis without alternatives.
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2013, 06:29:24 PM »

And to add to that, transplant patients who have thousand's of dollars a month in prescription bills for immunosuppressant drugs.
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