I Hate Dialysis Message Board
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
November 24, 2024, 08:36:34 PM

Login with username, password and session length
Search:     Advanced search
532606 Posts in 33561 Topics by 12678 Members
Latest Member: astrobridge
* Home Help Search Login Register
+  I Hate Dialysis Message Board
|-+  Dialysis Discussion
| |-+  Dialysis: News Articles
| | |-+  Goldman’s Bold Call On Dialysis Bundling: Sell Amgen, Buy DaVita
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. « previous next »
Pages: [1] Go Down Print
Author Topic: Goldman’s Bold Call On Dialysis Bundling: Sell Amgen, Buy DaVita  (Read 2304 times)
okarol
Administrator
Member for Life
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 100933


Photo is Jenna - after Disneyland - 1988

WWW
« on: December 17, 2010, 12:02:59 AM »

Goldman’s Bold Call On Dialysis Bundling: Sell Amgen, Buy DaVita
Dec. 16 2010 - 6:14 pm | 1,053 views | 0 recommendations | 1 comment
By DAVID WHELAN

Starting next year the dialysis business will change dramatically. Medicare pays for almost all of it, regardless of patients’ age. Until now kidney treatments have been billed in pieces. Epogen, an Amgen drug given to dialysis patients to treat anemia (~$50 per patient session), and dialysis services (~$150) were billed separately.

Now Medicare will pay about $220 per patient session. The dialysis center itself will be responsible for buying and prescribing drugs. Epogen dosing levels and Amgen’s lobbying of Medicare have been controversial for many years. With bundling Medicare hopes to remove incentives to overprescribe the expensive biologic drug.

In a new report Goldman Sachs analyst Sapna Srivastava writes that the change to bundling will shake up several stocks, and more than people think.

Right now Amgen is projected by Wall Street analysts to sell $2.3 billion of Epogen next year. But Goldman is more bearish. It predicts a 20% drop-off in sales and a 45% drop by 2014. By 2015 Epogen sales will fall to $1.4 billion, significantly lower than the consensus of around $2 billion.

Why? Goldman says that dialysis centers are aggressively developing treatment protocols that maximize profitability by using bare minimum levels of Epogen, within the boundaries of what’s good for the patient. The analysis is based on a proprietary survey of dialysis centers.

On the flip side the analysis brings good news for DaVita and Fresenius, the McDonald’s and Burger King of dialysis. “DaVita should benefit from the move to bundling given numerous ways and means to trim Epogen and other costs in a fixed reimbursement environment. The majority of survey respondents indicated revised treatment protocols have already been introduced at their centers, supporting our expectation for immediate results,” says Goldman. It projects an operating margin next year of 15.4% vs. the 14.8% consensus view.

Baxter is another company likely to benefit from bundling, says Goldman. It makes a system for performing an alternative form of dialysis at home.

For those readers interested in dialysis check out ProPublica’s recent investigative work, which shows how kidney care often is low-quality in the U.S. compared to other countries. Perhaps bundled payments will help in better aligning caregivers’ financial incentives.

Follow me on Twitter. And if you have a story idea e-mail me at dwhelan@forbes.com.

http://blogs.forbes.com/davidwhelan/2010/12/16/goldmans-bold-call-on-dialysis-bundling-sell-amgen-buy-davita/?boxes=Homepagechannels
Logged


Admin for IHateDialysis 2008 - 2014, retired.
Jenna is our daughter, bad bladder damaged her kidneys.
Was on in-center hemodialysis 2003-2007.
7 yr transplant lost due to rejection.
She did PD Sept. 2013 - July 2017
Found a swap living donor using social media, friends, family.
New kidney in a paired donation swap July 26, 2017.
Her story ---> https://www.facebook.com/WantedKidneyDonor
Please watch her video: http://youtu.be/D9ZuVJ_s80Y
Living Donors Rock! http://www.livingdonorsonline.org -
News video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-7KvgQDWpU
YLGuy
Elite Member
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 4901

« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2010, 01:52:30 AM »

This is very interesting.  I looked at my last labs because they have cut all epogen for me.  It says that 10-12 is a okay.  I pulled last years labs and they said that it had to be 11 or higher.  I looked up a number of sources and they say that for males it should be 14-18 for the most part. So, they are going to have us all walking around anemic so their profit margin increases?
Logged
Desert Dancer
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 961


« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2010, 05:49:19 AM »

YLGuy, from what I understand Epogen is quite dangerous to use if your hemoglobin is over 12.0. My hgb recently went to 12.6 and they stopped my Epogen immediately. I think I feel much better knowing they can't/won't overuse it.

http://www.epogen.com/patient/safety_info/important_safety_information.html
Logged

August 1980: Diagnosed with Familial Juvenile Hyperurecemic Nephropathy (FJHN)
8.22.10:   Began dialysis through central venous catheter
8.25.10:   AV fistula created
9.28.10:   Began training for Home Nocturnal Hemodialysis on a Fresenius Baby K
10.21.10: Began creating buttonholes with 15ga needles
11.13.10: Our first nocturnal home treatment!

Good health is just the slowest possible rate at which you can die.

The glass is neither half-full nor half-empty. The glass is just twice as large as it needs to be.

The early bird may get the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese.
greg10
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 469


« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2010, 06:12:16 AM »

This is very interesting.  I looked at my last labs because they have cut all epogen for me.  It says that 10-12 is a okay.  I pulled last years labs and they said that it had to be 11 or higher.  I looked up a number of sources and they say that for males it should be 14-18 for the most part. So, they are going to have us all walking around anemic so their profit margin increases?
YLGuy.  Your stated Hgb level of 14-18 g/dL is for normal, young & healthy active adult male, not for someone who is ESRD, inactive older male.  High levels of erythropoietin in the elderly is associated with higher mortality.
« Last Edit: December 17, 2010, 06:34:00 AM by greg10 » Logged

Newbie caretaker, so I may not know what I am talking about :)
Caretaker for my elderly father who has his first and current graft in March, 2010.
Previously in-center hemodialysis in national chain, now doing NxStage home dialysis training.
End of September 2010: after twelve days of training, we were asked to start dialyzing on our own at home, reluctantly, we agreed.
If you are on HD, did you know that Rapid fluid removal (UF = ultrafiltration) during dialysis is associated with cardiovascular morbidity?  http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=20596
We follow a modified version: UF limit = (weight in kg)  *  10 ml/kg/hr * (130 - age)/100

How do you know you are getting sufficient hemodialysis?  Know your HDP!  Scribner, B. H. and D. G. Oreopoulos (2002). "The Hemodialysis Product (HDP): A Better Index of Dialysis Adequacy than Kt/V." Dialysis & Transplantation 31(1).   http://www.therenalnetwork.org/qi/resources/HDP.pdf
Jie
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 521


« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2010, 10:16:09 PM »

The target HGB kevels are 11-12.
Logged
Pages: [1] Go Up Print 
« previous next »
 

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP SMF 2.0.17 | SMF © 2019, Simple Machines | Terms and Policies Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!