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« on: September 29, 2010, 01:53:06 PM »


 *AAKP HealthLine is now online! You can participate in AAKP HealthLine programs by telephone or by online webinar!*

Conference call/Online webinar topic:
I'm Always Tired...Anemia vs. Depression

This educational teleconference focuses on the possible side effects of chronic kidney disease (CKD) - anemia and depression. Many of the symptoms of anemia and depression are similar including: fatigue, loss of appetite, feelings of sadness and lack of energy. As a kidney patient, "How do you know if you are anemic or depressed?," "How do you tell the difference?," and "What can you do to treat and manage both conditions?" This HealthLine call aims to answer exactly those questions and many more.

Speakers:
Sean Harvey, DO, FACOI
Mark Meier, MSW, LCSW 

Date: Oct 6
Time:
1:30 p.m. - 2:30 p.m. ET

If you are not on Eastern Time (ET), please be aware of the time difference. For instance, a conference call held at 1:30 p.m. ET, would be at 12:30 p.m. Central Time (CT), 11:30 a.m. Mountain Time (MT) and 10:30 a.m. Pacific Time (PT).

Register:
Please call AAKP at (800) 749-AAKP to register or click here to register online.

This is a live program. It will be recorded and archived on the AAKP Web site.

More info go to http://www.aakp.org/events/HealthLine/Upcoming-Calls/oct610/
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2010, 02:44:52 PM »

OMG, this is EXACTLY the question I'm struggling with RIGHT NOW!  Add anxiety on top of that, and your body can't help but react!  Thanks so much for posting this; I am definitely going to check this out!!
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2010, 02:51:39 PM »

OK, I've registered.  We'll see what happens.  I've never done a webinar before...
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2010, 03:40:59 PM »

I did a webinar recently on "Having your donor find YOU!" and I just sat and listened, there were no visuals, just a speaker, but you could type questions in a text box and he'd answer them as he went. Please let me know how this goes, thanks.
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7 yr transplant lost due to rejection.
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Found a swap living donor using social media, friends, family.
New kidney in a paired donation swap July 26, 2017.
Her story ---> https://www.facebook.com/WantedKidneyDonor
Please watch her video: http://youtu.be/D9ZuVJ_s80Y
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2010, 05:14:54 PM »

I'm interested, but I'll be in dialysis at that time
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2010, 06:03:57 PM »

I'm interested, but I'll be in dialysis at that time

It will be recorded and archived on the AAKP Web site.
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Jenna is our daughter, bad bladder damaged her kidneys.
Was on in-center hemodialysis 2003-2007.
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She did PD Sept. 2013 - July 2017
Found a swap living donor using social media, friends, family.
New kidney in a paired donation swap July 26, 2017.
Her story ---> https://www.facebook.com/WantedKidneyDonor
Please watch her video: http://youtu.be/D9ZuVJ_s80Y
Living Donors Rock! http://www.livingdonorsonline.org -
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2010, 03:32:39 PM »

I'll be at dialysis as well. It says you can participate online or by phone - how does it work? I suppose I could sit at dialysis and listen on my phone, but it might be easier for me to listen later if I'm not going to be participating. Any idea how long between when the teleconference takes place and when it's posted to the archives?

This is a question I've been wondering about a lot for myself as well. I'm very interested in hearing the discussion over this.
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2010, 03:45:02 PM »

I'll be at dialysis as well. It says you can participate online or by phone - how does it work? I suppose I could sit at dialysis and listen on my phone, but it might be easier for me to listen later if I'm not going to be participating. Any idea how long between when the teleconference takes place and when it's posted to the archives?

This is a question I've been wondering about a lot for myself as well. I'm very interested in hearing the discussion over this.

I know I'm not anemic.. *L*  I just want to see what they have to say, and maybe see if they give any pointers to approaching the doctor with concerns
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2010, 03:45:57 PM »

God bless...this has been an issue I've been questioning myself about for two years - I'm signing up!
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2010, 05:27:41 PM »

I had my regular neph check up today, and my labs showed that my egfr is only 15, but strangely enough, I'm not anemic.  However, lately I've been feeling particularly tired.  I assumed it was because of CKD anemia, so I was really nervous about today's appt.  This year has been particularly difficult for me, culminating in the illness and death of my mom.  That on top of all of this kidney stuff was enough for me to feel depressed, and I KNOW that since I'm not anemic, depression has to be the culprit to some degree.  So I think this webinar will be really interesting and instructive.
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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2010, 09:45:24 AM »

I know I'm not anemic.. *L*  I just want to see what they have to say, and maybe see if they give any pointers to approaching the doctor with concerns
That's true, we often know our hemoglobin numbers so we know when we're anemic or not, but that's not the only problem with ESRD that can make us tired all the time besides depression. I'm interested in seeing what they say tells you it could be depression instead of anemia, in case that also helps distinguish between fatigue because of toxins, or med side effects, or low blood pressure, or fluid overloading, or other effects of dialysis, or... on and on and on...
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2010, 11:37:34 AM »

I've just finished participating in this webinar, and it was very interesting and informative.  I got to ask a couple of questions, which was cool.  The webinar will be archived at www.aakp.org.  I don't know how long it will be before they have in on their site, but once it is up, do go and have a read of it.  There were some good pointers and good advice.

I know there have been lots of discussions about exercise, so I won't start a new one, but I will say that the importance of exercise for renal patients was once again emphasized.  It is very important to treat anemia so that the patient will have the energy to exercise, and gentle exercise, according to the speakers, is probably the most important things a patient can do for himself.  It is the best mood elevator besides just being good for you.  Treat anemia, encourage gentle exercise, and thus you have a good chance of ridding yourself of the blacker moods associated with living with a chronic illness.
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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2010, 12:07:00 AM »

 :2thumbsup; Thanks for the info MM!
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Found a swap living donor using social media, friends, family.
New kidney in a paired donation swap July 26, 2017.
Her story ---> https://www.facebook.com/WantedKidneyDonor
Please watch her video: http://youtu.be/D9ZuVJ_s80Y
Living Donors Rock! http://www.livingdonorsonline.org -
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2010, 01:24:37 PM »

Good info..

I've been walking of my off days.  I go to our mailbox and back, the trip is almost 3/4 of a mile.  I did it today and it took me 25 minutes.  I was rather impressed with myself, cuz when I was in high school, the mailbox was the bus stop, and I used to be able to make it in 15 minutes.  I was transplanted then, and I was healthier then than now.  If I can go up and back in 25 minutes, then I'm doing it faster now than when I was younger and healthier.
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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2010, 01:29:34 PM »

Good for you, Riki.   :2thumbsup;
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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2010, 01:36:37 PM »

thanks.. it gives a sense of accomplishment.  I can see how it can help ward off the black moods.
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