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Title: Politics
Post by: joezee on January 08, 2008, 04:51:28 AM
NEVER SAY NEVER:
Click (or Paste):
http://www.backwardsbush.com/
 :yahoo; :2thumbsup; :clap; :bandance; :beer1;
Title: Re: Politics
Post by: boxman55 on January 08, 2008, 05:03:13 AM
How stupid is that...Boxman
Title: Re: Politics
Post by: joezee on January 08, 2008, 06:02:00 AM
How stupid is that...Boxman

How stupid are the 29% who still support his Words of Mass Deception? (PROUD to be an American; ASHAMED of my President) :usaflag;
Title: Re: Politics
Post by: boxman55 on January 08, 2008, 06:09:18 AM
Gee let me guess joezee, every day you click the site and watch the clock tic...Boxman
Title: Re: Politics
Post by: KR Cincy on January 08, 2008, 06:42:57 AM
Outstanding Joezee!! :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Politics
Post by: glitter on January 08, 2008, 11:09:20 AM
I do not agree with making fun of a sitting President-   >:( he may do things not everyone agrees on- but he is STILL the President!  :usaflag;
Title: Re: Politics
Post by: willieandwinnie on January 08, 2008, 11:34:26 AM
I'm with glitter. He is still the President.
Title: Re: Politics
Post by: oswald on January 08, 2008, 03:38:42 PM
i agree with boxman.
Title: Re: Politics
Post by: okarol on January 08, 2008, 03:48:10 PM
 ::)

Here's something else to waste your time on instead of that clock:

You have received this from ABCNEWS.com:

Pick your president

Match-O-Matic
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/page?id=3623346

Title: Re: Politics
Post by: boxman55 on January 08, 2008, 04:31:45 PM
Mine came up Fred then Rudy then Mitt I would say it was more fun then just sitting there watching the clock tic...Boxman
Title: Re: Politics
Post by: okarol on January 08, 2008, 04:36:21 PM
Mine came up Fred then Rudy then Mitt I would say it was more fun then just sitting there watching the clock tic...Boxman

I got:
1. Ron Paul (WTF??)
2. Rudy
3. Mitt

none of those are on my short list... :urcrazy;
Title: Re: Politics
Post by: willieandwinnie on January 08, 2008, 04:39:10 PM
Mine came up McCain, Huckabee and Hunter.

Title: Re: Politics
Post by: boxman55 on January 08, 2008, 04:45:21 PM
Even  though Ron Paul doesn't have a chance my Dad said he liked him. You might be on to something Okarol...Boxman
Title: Re: Politics
Post by: Chicken Little on January 08, 2008, 06:18:25 PM
I got -

1) Obama
2) Biden
3) Kucinich

I love the Backwards Bush countdown.   Bush has done a crappy job.  The silver lining is that his poor performance has motivated this country to wake up and vote.     :beer1;
Title: Re: Politics
Post by: okarol on January 08, 2008, 06:24:15 PM
I never understand how people can blame/credit presidents as if the Congress and Senate doesn't exist.

I'll bet the same amount of people vote as usual.

Title: Re: Politics
Post by: thegrammalady on January 09, 2008, 03:25:09 AM
I never understand how people can blame/credit presidents as if the Congress and Senate doesn't exist.

I'll bet the same amount of people vote as usual.



...and bush chastised them for not voting the way he wanted.
Title: Re: Politics
Post by: Bill Peckham on January 09, 2008, 02:24:48 PM
Biden
Clinton
and Gravel?

For six years the President set the policy agenda for Congress - the world we are living in today was is a direct consequence of the decisions taken by the people in office during the proceeding years. Changing the course of this country is like changing the course of a train - there are limited opportunities for a change in direction and to get to those choices where a change in direction is possible you have to keep going forward. Backing up is possible but it is rarely done and stopping really means being stuck where you are.

This administration passed many, many switches over the years. We'll never know where we'd be had we followed different tracks - those choices are gone forever. I think our job is to elect people we think will make good choices when the opportunity comes up in 2009. And in 2010. Elect the person who will find the path to a gentle, peaceful, fruitful, prosperous plain. Unless you're looking for these opportunities to change direction they'll just pass you by. I'd like someone who will be looking for the chance to improve our relations with the world. Someone who will look for the turnoff from the land of secrete renditions and 'enhanced interrogation', and someone who will build new tracks, create new options (to the land of a sensible healthcare system).

If Obama were the train engineer he would have choices no one else running for president would have, tracks that we are not even sure are there would be available, offering new options. Each candidate for president would open different choices, just as the composition of congress changes the options. I think Obama would open the best options. This administraion did not create good options. One of the weaknesses of this administration has been their use of language - axis of evil, smoke 'em out, mission accomplished, bring 'em on. Their choice of words limited our options.

No member of congress is in a position to regret the many paths not taken to the degree is the president, already he is said to regret some of the tracks not taken http://www.energybulletin.net/14511.html
Title: Re: Politics
Post by: Bill Peckham on January 10, 2008, 10:49:58 PM
Here is an interesting test that measures your feelings towards the candidates
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/Study?tid=-1
your suppose to go pretty fast they flash a picture or an image and you have to press "i" or "e" whether the word is good or bad or whether the photo is of who it suppose to be.

According to the test I feel equally about Obama and Edwards then Richardson followed by Clinton but they're all clustered above the half way point.

This test felt like it was measuring something more internal, the subconscious. Now I'll have to do the republicans.
Title: Re: Politics
Post by: Romona on January 11, 2008, 06:30:45 PM
I never understand how people can blame/credit presidents as if the Congress and Senate doesn't exist.

I'll bet the same amount of people vote as usual.



...and bush chastised them for not voting the way he wanted.


At least when they die, the media does find positive accomplishments to credit them with.
Title: Re: Politics
Post by: Mimi on January 12, 2008, 11:52:31 PM



Politics is, and always has been, a rough-and-tumble business that seems to bring out the worst in candidates trying to get an edge or to defend themselves from distortions, outright lies, and personal attacks.

Adlai Stevenson, a presidential candidate in the 1950s, said, “The hardest thing about any political campaign is how to win without proving you are unworthy of winning.”

This takes a huge toll on those who put themselves on the political frying pan, but it also makes it hard for responsible citizens to assess qualifications, to determine a candidate’s true positions on the issues, and to decide whether characterizations of the individual are true and relevant.

Although competence and character are important, the criteria for who gets my vote starts with a candidate's convictions, his or her beliefs on crucial matters.

Seems simple enough, but it isn’t. The first task is to identify the issues that mean a lot to you and their relative importance. The second is to discover the candidate’s stands on them

Fortunately, a number of nonpartisan websites can help. I especially like www.glassbooth.org where you rank issues in order of their importance to you. You’re then told how closely each candidate’s views are aligned with yours.

Mimi