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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: Transplant Discussion => Topic started by: Neo on October 22, 2007, 09:43:41 AM

Title: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: Neo on October 22, 2007, 09:43:41 AM
This last week 2 people I know one that lives in miami my age got a transplant, and a lady I know well thats sits next to me in dialysis got a transplant. Dont get me wrong I was soo happy for them both especially the lady thats sits next to me in dialysis, in fact the day before she was called I was cheering her up and I had told her its not a question of if your going to get one, but when.. However I kind of felt like we were in it together if you know what I mean. I also was on the list about 3 months before her, so privately I felt really bummed out cuz it just felt like everyone was getting a kidney but me. I just am not a selfish person but it just kind of was a shock and I feel kind of hurt and down a bit. Just needed to talk to someone about it, why not my IHD friends :-\



EDITED: Fixed subject line - moved to Transplant Stories - okarol/moderator
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a rigth to be...
Post by: paris on October 22, 2007, 10:04:29 AM
Neo, it is good to hear that someone else feels this way too.  Of course, I am thrilled for everyone who gets a transplant. It is the news we all want to hear about because it gives us hope.  But, it also makes us a little jealous--a normal reaction.  I don't like feeling that way--it isn't like me to envy anyone.  Then I start feeling selfish and thnk of all the younger people waiting for a new kidney (YOU) and am willing to wait longer if your age group gets one first.  BUT, I want a tranplant too!!  My family wants me to get one too.  Oh well, waiting, waiting, waiting-but not patiently!   Thanks for sharing your feelings :thumbup;
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: okarol on October 22, 2007, 10:09:02 AM
Hi Neo,
The waiting is torture, especially when others around you get a transplant! Unfortunately it's hard to predict when it will happen for you because it's based on time AND tissue matching. If someone is a good tissue match with no antibodies to the non-living donor, they will get the call. All you can do is be sure all your stuff is up-to-date, and that your transplant coordinator has all your current info. I am sorry you are down, but try to cheer yourself on too - it's not IF.... it's WHEN!! Good luck!
 :cuddle;
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a rigth to be...
Post by: MyssAnne on October 22, 2007, 10:22:23 AM
Yeah. I know how you feel. I feel that quite few times, but I try to not let it stay too long. I acknowledge it, then move on. When it's my time, it's my time.  Right now it isn't.
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: Joe Paul on October 22, 2007, 10:45:26 AM
I'm excited because I just got listed, but I feel what you're saying. I try not to think about when I will get the transplants - but to be serious, everytime the phone rings now my heart jumps! I'm sure it will happen for the both of us when we least expect it, but in the meantime I try to live life the way it is, knowing one day I will have a chance at a new life God willing
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: Sluff on October 22, 2007, 12:04:49 PM
I think that is completely normal Neo. Hang in there your time is coming. 
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: goofynina on October 22, 2007, 12:21:11 PM
I'm excited because I just got listed, but I feel what you're saying. I try not to think about when I will get the transplants - but to be serious, everytime the phone rings now my heart jumps! I'm sure it will happen for the both of us when we least expect it, but in the meantime I try to live life the way it is, knowing one day I will have a chance at a new life God willing

Very well said JoePaul,  :2thumbsup;  Hang in there Neo, remember, patience is a virtue, your time will come my friend.  :beer1;
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: Beth36 on October 22, 2007, 12:57:17 PM
I can understand your impatience and I hope you get the call soon!  Hang in there!!


Beth
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: stauffenberg on October 22, 2007, 02:14:17 PM
Just be happy you're not on dialysis in Canada, where the waiting time for a transplant is so long that the average patient dies before getting one.  I remember when I was about two years into dialysis I suddenly noticed that I had never seen anyone in my unit of 48 patients ever leave because of getting a transplant.  Many left because they died, but that seemed to be the only route of escape.  As a male with diabetes in his forties, I had an eight-year life expectancy on dialysis, and the average wait time for a transplant in Canada was eight years, giving me a 50% chance of being dead before ever getting one. 

For us the issue was not being jealous about someone else's good luck in getting a transplant first, but about being hopeless over the total unreality of ever getting a transplant in time.
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: Neo on October 22, 2007, 05:16:21 PM
Hey nina can you put my post back into the dialysis discussion board? This doesn't belong in the transplant section I want my friends on the dialysis board to see this so I can get some more feedback... Thanks nina!
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: goofynina on October 22, 2007, 05:25:36 PM
Hi Neo,  It is pertaining to transplants that is why it was put here, if someone has any questions, thoughts or any other inquiries about transplants, they will come to this thread.  I hope you understand  ;)

Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: coravh on October 23, 2007, 04:34:59 AM
This last week 2 people I know one that lives in miami my age got a transplant, and a lady I know well thats sits next to me in dialysis got a transplant. Dont get me wrong I was soo happy for them both especially the lady thats sits next to me in dialysis, in fact the day before she was called I was cheering her up and I had told her its not a question of if your going to get one, but when.. However I kind of felt like we were in it together if you know what I mean. I also was on the list about 3 months before her, so privately I felt really bummed out cuz it just felt like everyone was getting a kidney but me. I just am not a selfish person but it just kind of was a shock and I feel kind of hurt and down a bit. Just needed to talk to someone about it, why not my IHD friends :-\



EDITED: Fixed subject line - moved to Transplant Stories - okarol/moderator

Of course you feel let down. I was on Hemo for a year and had a really rough time. If you are waiting for a tx, then you want to get off the machine and it is very hard when people you know get there before you. On the other hand, you sound like you have the absolute proper attitude to get you through until your own transplant comes through. You are a bit bummed, but you are happy for the folks you know. That's the best balance you can maintain. Keeping a positive attitude, but acknowledging that it is hard.

Don't worry. You will get a transplant too.

Take care.

Cora
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: George Jung on October 23, 2007, 05:56:12 AM
Hi Neo,  It is pertaining to transplants that is why it was put here, if someone has any questions, thoughts or any other inquiries about transplants, they will come to this thread.  I hope you understand  ;)



It's more about Neo's feelings about being (stuck) on dialysis while others around him are being transplanted.  It is not any of this... "Have you had a Transplant? Tell us your story, good, bad or horrible. Thinking of a getting a transplant? Well you better read this section first. Feel free to ask questions related to transplantation."   It's a matter of interpretation and I don't see any harm with it being under general discussion.  Think about it.
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: Sluff on October 23, 2007, 06:10:02 AM
Thanks for your comment George but I think goofynina and Neo will work this out through PM's.
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: GuyIncognito on October 23, 2007, 06:13:13 AM
It's frustrating isn't it... at 28 and having been on Hemo for 5 years I have seen my fair share of people twice my age and older get the call before me. It's hard to see the justice in someone who has already lived a good portion of they're life without dialysis get a transplant before someone who doesn't have that same opportunity.



Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: stauffenberg on October 23, 2007, 01:17:35 PM
It's also true that the period of your life when you are on dialysis is very important for how much damage it does to the overall development of your life, including your plans for marriage, having children, building a coherent career, getting an adequate amount of education, going through all the psychological stages of development at the right time and in the right order.  A decade lost to dialysis for a patient in his 20s can destroy the whole structure of his life, while a decade lost to dialysis for a retired person who was planning to be sitting on the front porch counting the cars with out of state license plates going by each day may not make as much difference.

while there is preference given on the transplant waiting list to children, since their neurological development and stature can be permanently affected by being on dialysis during this period of their lives, there seems to be no consideration for the different impact of dialysis on people over 18, and the young and old are just lumped together on the same waiting list.
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: paris on October 23, 2007, 02:56:50 PM
It certainly is a personal view depending on what age group you are in.
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: kitkatz on October 23, 2007, 04:12:54 PM
The entire process is frustrating.
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: paris on October 23, 2007, 05:56:43 PM
I will second that!
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: GuyIncognito on October 24, 2007, 05:24:07 AM
Frustrated as I may be I'm all for the best possible match scenario... I'd much rather wait for a Kidney that I'm not going to have to fight and end up back where I started in a short period of time - Disappointmentville.

Heres what I'm dealing with... My father had his second transplant a year ago, it's working great and I couldn't be happier for him, however at the same time he only had to do PD for 3 months before getting the call for his first Kidney, the second was also dialysis pre-emptive and here I am 5 years attached to a machine waiting and I have to sit and listen to him talk about golfing trips with his buddies to Pinehurst. FRUSTRATING

I only hope that I get a Transplant before my daughter gets to an age where she realizes her Dad is not like everyone else's. 
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: Lori1851 on October 24, 2007, 07:30:16 AM
HI Neo,
I can only imagine how you felt. I know one thing though your TIME will come and so will my sons. A lady where my son has dialysis was to get hers a few weeks back something happened and it was called off. I told my son Dustin sometimes things just happen we can't explain. Just remember God has a handle on everything ;)

Lori/Indiana
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: Neo on October 24, 2007, 05:41:36 PM
thanks for all your kind words and info. I'm 29 and I've lost most of my 20's to this, but its good to know people understand I feel much better. What would I do without you all!!!!! LOL
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: kitkatz on October 24, 2007, 09:24:04 PM
I know how you feel.  The hoops and hoops you have to jump through to get on the list are frustrating. Then the wait time is ridiculous.
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: Wattle on October 24, 2007, 11:35:00 PM
Then the wait time is ridiculous.

Waiting waiting waiting..........
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: okarol on November 05, 2007, 05:50:19 PM
How ya doing Neo?
 :waving;
Title: Re: So Im a bit dissappointed, but I dont know if I really have a right to be...
Post by: 2_DallasCowboys on November 06, 2007, 12:21:06 PM
Hi,

Going thru the process of getting listed is in itself a major
accomplishment in my book. 
However, the waiting is very  stressful-my husband is listed
at two hospitals, and there are days when he will get totally
frustrated with the wait.  There have been two transplants
that we know of since he went on HD, he was very happy
but envious at the same time.  I think that mixup of emotions
is only being human. Praying that all who ar listed get the call very soon
Anne