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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: General Discussion => Topic started by: KICKSTART on September 07, 2007, 12:54:07 PM

Title: Memory ?
Post by: KICKSTART on September 07, 2007, 12:54:07 PM
Does anyone find their memory is being affected by renal failure ? In fact is this possible? Or am i going senile ?  ;D. I find a lot of the time i am being reminded of stuff that has happened ,or i said, or things i should remember , but im constantly forgetting or cant remember .. nothing major just bits and bats .. is this something else we can add to the list ?
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: Sluff on September 07, 2007, 12:59:26 PM
I think my problem is age, but i can't remember.  :lol;
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: thegrammalady on September 07, 2007, 01:52:26 PM
i've always had problems remembering things, even in my 20's. i would walk into a room and wonder why i had gone in there. as i reached 50 my kids would laugh and as "aaaah a senior moment" recently it has been more of a problem. the other day i was at the computer reading e-mail and i planned to google something when i finished. when i finished i knew there was something i wanted to look up, but for the life of me i couldn't remember what. it didn't click until about an hour later when a tv commercial reminded me. i'm not really sure it has anything to do with dialysis, i've always been terrible with names as an example. and i could always blame it on hitting my head in the auto accident last week. been real fuzzy ever since. who knows.
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: paris on September 07, 2007, 01:54:21 PM
This is a question I struggle with every day.  My mother died from Alzheimer's 4 years ago. Watching her go from an articulate, talented, powerful woman to a shell of her former self was devastating.  It is a long, slow journey with no hope and I would pray every night for God to release her from this hell on earth.  I do feel that renal failure causes memory problems.  But, I constantly worry that I won't know the difference between normal memory "hiccups" and Alzheimer's.  I hate when my family will say "remember, I told you that yesterday"--- if I remembered I wouldn't be asking you now!!!!    So, please, please tell me that the kidney failure, anemia, etc, are the main reason I don't always remember.  Of course, it could just be an age thing.   It will be interesting to hear everyone's opinion on this subject.  
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: paddbear0000 on September 07, 2007, 02:11:48 PM
Hmmm...I thought it was due to my diabetes! I keep post-it notes and a pen EVERYWHERE, even in the bathroom! There are little hot pink and green stickies on furniture all over the house. Drives my husband crazy!   ;D
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: KICKSTART on September 07, 2007, 02:18:29 PM
I once watched something on tv about a guy in pakistan that had a transplant and they mentioned that after it his memory got better , clearer . so this is why i asked ..another chemical inbalance ???
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: Roxy on September 07, 2007, 02:58:35 PM
I think it does have to do with renal failure, because as my kidney got worse so did my memory and the time it would take my mind to process things. Since the transplant I've gotten better, not quite where I was before all this, but better.
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: donnia on September 07, 2007, 03:53:27 PM
Yes, I do think kidney failure can affect the memory.  I am 35, and as my kidney gets worse, so does my memory.  I have always had a very good memory until here recently.  Now my memory stinks!!!
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: waitlisted on September 07, 2007, 08:43:59 PM
Yes, kidney failure can affect to memory. Memory issue is one of the possible symptoms for uremic encephalopathy, which refers to the central nervous system signs and symptoms that result from a decline in kidney function.

Based on what I have read the threshold for these symptoms is a fall of GFR below 10%.
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: Romona on September 07, 2007, 08:59:59 PM
Confusion and memory problems are related to the toxins not being removed from your body. That is what my nephrologist once told me.

After my transplant I was told by other transplantees that "Prograf Moments" are common. I thought it was just me getting older and confused more. My attention span is not what it used to be.

 :waving;
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: kitkatz on September 07, 2007, 11:56:07 PM
Memory??  What memory?? Now what was the topic again?  What were we talking about?
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: Wattle on September 08, 2007, 12:37:01 AM


Sorry, what was the question again?   :urcrazy;  :P   ;D
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: KICKSTART on September 08, 2007, 01:09:45 AM
Thanks guys as usual ..good to know im not going 'batty'  :rofl;
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: Lulu on September 08, 2007, 01:18:16 AM
My function droped about 5% in the last year and my memory has taken a beating. Sometimes, it is quite scary. It is like my brain blanks out and I don't know, remember or recognize anything. Luckily, it does not last long but it is really disorienting. And of course there's the less benign spending two days looking for my sunglasses  :lol; that's always fun!

 :urcrazy;
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: Joe Paul on September 08, 2007, 01:32:50 AM
I wondered the same thing when I first got sick, here is a link to the replies : http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=770.0
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: keefer51 on September 08, 2007, 06:17:23 AM
Wow i thought again i was the only one. I used to have a very good short term memory. Around a year ago i told my Dr. who sent me to a neurologist. I am 52. She sent me to the hospital for tests. She said some of my problem comes with age. The nerve! I'm still a young man. At least inside i still feel like I'm in my 20S. Remember those days Sluff ole buddy! Anyway the other problem was dialysis. The Neph. of course said no way. But i tend to believe the Neurologist. I write everything down. I live by myself so i also have two calanders that help. If i always have a shirt pocket i would keep a small one with me always.
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: goofynina on September 08, 2007, 12:10:56 PM
I must tell you i blame IHD for my memory loss, when i get online i forget i have chores, a hubby, pets, plants and anything else that is supposed to be fed, cleaned, bathed, groomed etc...  (at least that's my story and i am stickin' to it dammit)  ::)  8)  :urcrazy;
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: okarol on September 08, 2007, 12:38:17 PM
I must tell you i blame IHD for my memory loss, when i get online i forget i have chores, a hubby, pets, plants and anything else that is supposed to be fed, cleaned, bathed, groomed etc...  (at least that's my story and i am stickin' to it dammit)  ::)  8)  :urcrazy;

Cool! That works for me!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: MattyBoy100 on September 08, 2007, 03:40:16 PM
When I go into my unit for dialysis, I take my weight on the scales by the door.  By the time I get to my chair and the nurse asks me my weight I have forgotten what it was.  This is in the space of about a minute.  I have had to go back twice to get my wieght on occasion!

Now then, what was I talking about?
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: Ang on September 08, 2007, 04:39:18 PM
yes,  memory  loss  is  associated  with  ckd,my  problem  is  i  forget  individual  parts  of  conversations  i  might  have,  but  can  recall  in  detail  things  that  happen  in  years  gone by :thumbup;
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: Jill D. on September 08, 2007, 06:32:41 PM
I thought I was going crazy because as my kidney disease got worse,  I was forgetting so much. Good thing my kids were good sports and reminded me constantly of their activities.  :) Then I read a brochure about kidney disease and it's symptoms, and lo and behold memory loss was listed! At least I knew I wasn't going crazy! My biggest problem was forgetting certain words while having conversations. Things have improved with the transplant, but I think I do have "prograf" moments now!
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: Romona on September 08, 2007, 07:55:16 PM
And look how we all spell. And I can't remember how to use ???????????????

Oh forget it.
 :bandance; :bandance;
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: Wattle on September 09, 2007, 12:54:16 AM




For those of you that have seen "Finding Nemo", you will understand why my kids now call me "Dory".    ;D
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: angela515 on September 09, 2007, 08:05:44 AM
haha.... Dory is funny. My daughter named her Beta fish Dory :)
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: livecam on September 09, 2007, 08:39:09 AM
Nope, no problems with memory before, during, or after but old age is approaching.. :bow;
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: paris on September 09, 2007, 01:13:06 PM
I think I am Dory, too.  I either repeat things or forget to say it in the first place.  It is very encouraging to read that so many others have a similar problem.    I do think I can speak whale though!
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: RichardMEL on September 09, 2007, 08:56:17 PM
Yes, I have found it affects my memory... I used to have the BEST memory... people would say "Oh my god I can't believe you remembered that thing from 5 years ago!" or whatever... I could remember crazy sets of numbers like credit card numbers or phone numbers or whatever... I still can pretty well, but things have definitely gotten worse since I've had to start dialysis.. Sometimes I forget to do things I'm supposed to do or things like that and it bugs me because I used to just be able to rely on my memory with no question.... now... I'm at about 70% I reckon.
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: paddbear0000 on September 10, 2007, 05:52:29 AM
I used to remember anything and everything graphic design related because I love it so much. Now tho, I find myself forgetting a lot of what I've been learning in my design classes. It sucks!
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: Jill D. on September 10, 2007, 08:57:40 PM
I was havng a conversation with my husband and some high school friends about a camping weekend we all took when I was about 18. I told them I wasn't there, and they all reassured me that I certainly was. Hmmmm....wait...I didn't have kidney disease back then...why on earth could I have forgotten an ENTIRE WEEKEND?!?!  :beer1; :beer1; :beer1; :beer1; ;)
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: jbeany on September 11, 2007, 12:17:47 AM
I was havng a conversation with my husband and some high school friends about a camping weekend we all took when I was about 18. I told them I wasn't there, and they all reassured me that I certainly was. Hmmmm....wait...I didn't have kidney disease back then...why on earth could I have forgotten an ENTIRE WEEKEND?!?!  :beer1; :beer1; :beer1; :beer1; ;)

 :rofl;
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: paddbear0000 on September 11, 2007, 09:42:31 AM
I've been trying to remember all day whether our trash is picked up today or tomorrow! I should remember this! They've been coming the exact same day every week in the 2 1/2 years we've lived here! It's killing me.
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: Romona on September 11, 2007, 01:14:34 PM
I misplaced my daughter's lunch money and envelope for picture day. My husband had to run around like crazy this morning, go to the mac machine and run to school to pay for pictures in time. I found it later...........in my underwear drawer. Why in the world would I put it there?  ::)
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: paddbear0000 on September 11, 2007, 01:30:44 PM
I found it later...........in my underwear drawer. Why in the world would I put it there?  ::)

 :rofl;
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: angela515 on September 11, 2007, 03:04:03 PM
 :lol;
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: highlite36 on September 11, 2007, 03:25:06 PM
What I did do once was forget my phone number.....  That STUNK!!!!  I was at the library when I met this really good looking young man who asked for my number...and I forgot it!!!!  Since I got sick, I've started carrying a "memory pad" in my purse......  My phone number is now in there so I never forget numbers that I need to remember.....  :-)  It's great to have a book by my side at all times.....  :-)
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: paris on September 11, 2007, 03:29:01 PM
Romona, your underwear drawer!!!?????  :rofl;   What else is in your drawers?????   It is nice to know I am in good company :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: LightLizard on September 11, 2007, 03:49:35 PM
i can't remember if i've ever had memory problems or not.

help!
 :rofl;

i kill me....

heehee

who's got the rolling papers? >:D

seriously though, (yeah, right) i don't need to or want to remember most things,
but my wife reminds me, without fail.
 ::)
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: BigSteve on September 11, 2007, 03:50:34 PM
At my age(69) I don't know if disremembering things is because
of age or kidney failure, but it's happening. What really bugs me
is that I was always able to remember specific conversations with people
so that I wouldn't bring up the same subject with the same
listeners. Now, I start to talk with friends and halfway through
I realize I've told them the same thing before, and I feel like
a complete idiot.
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: LightLizard on September 11, 2007, 04:03:27 PM
studies show that memory loss is a normal effect of aging, but we dialysis junkies have an extra burden, when it comes to memory loss, it seems.
recent research has found that the memory can be supported with the playing of certain games, such as crossword puzzles and similar activities.
music also has the ability to bring our memories into clarity.
as a musician, when i was playing at a seniors' center in a ward for patients with severe alzheimers and senility, i was totally blown away as an elderly patron rose from her wheelchair, out of her trance, and began to dance to one of the old hits we were playing, as if it was 1926 again, in her mind. it was beautiful, and slightly sad, too. we finished our set and she sat down, returning to her vacant stare in her wheelchair.

love

~LL~
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: Deanne on September 11, 2007, 04:17:09 PM
I still have about 25% function but I've always had memory problems. For all of my adult life, I've faked it when people ask me if I remember doing things. I've forgotten entire vacations. It got to the point where I figure it isn't worth going on trips because I won't remember it later. A friend said something about the time he and his father came to visit me -- they did!? My dad was talking to me last night about how hard it was to air the smoke out of my first car and that it took weeks of effort. I remember the car -- I got it after college. I hate the smell of smoke, so you'd think this would've left an impression. It's a complete blank. I guess it means I don't hold grudges anyway! You can make me mad and I probably won't remember it later.
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: kitkatz on September 11, 2007, 05:15:50 PM
The kids at school have no excuse when theys it there and look at me like I am speaking Swahili to them during a lesson.  I on the other hand, have a good excuse when I forget where I put the book I was just reading out loud of.  The kids think I am completely nuts!
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: Romona on September 12, 2007, 07:58:43 PM
I misplaced my daughter's lunch money and envelope for picture day. My husband had to run around like crazy this morning, go to the mac machine and run to school to pay for pictures in time. I found it later...........in my underwear drawer. Why in the world would I put it there? ::)

Just an update. My underwear was not in her bookbag, thank goodness! :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: goofynina on September 12, 2007, 08:09:25 PM
I misplaced my daughter's lunch money and envelope for picture day. My husband had to run around like crazy this morning, go to the mac machine and run to school to pay for pictures in time. I found it later...........in my underwear drawer. Why in the world would I put it there? ::)

Just an update. My underwear was not in her bookbag, thank goodness! :2thumbsup;

Thank goodness huh?  lol...  :rofl;  How could she explain that in Biology?  :o
Title: Re: Memory ?
Post by: Romona on September 12, 2007, 08:11:05 PM
She's seven and probably would have used them for Show and Tell.  :rofl;