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Off-Topic => Off-Topic: Talk about anything you want. => Topic started by: meadowlandsnj on April 11, 2007, 11:30:02 AM
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Don Imus, a well known radio and TV show personality recently made some comments on his morning show on MSNBC.
From The Washngton Post:
As skittish advertisers began to pull out and calls for his resignation reverberated, embattled shock jock Don Imus yesterday continued a campaign of contrition over racially and sexually insensitive remarks he made, even while insisting that he shouldn't lose his national television show and syndicated radio program.
Imus, who last week called the Rutgers University women's basketball players "nappy-headed hos," said on his morning show yesterday that he will seek a meeting with the team. His on-air slur has mushroomed into widespread condemnation, fueled round-the-clock news coverage and resulted in a two-week suspension of his show, carried on MSNBC and CBS Radio. (He also called these girls jigaboos after the other remark)
Do you you think the punishment is enough? Is it really teaching him a lesson? Is this a lesson for all us that racism and sexism is alive and well in 2007?
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In my opinion he has the right to freedom of speech. As ignorant as it was to to say what he did, nobody is being forced to listen. This has not been the first time he has voiced offending comments but for some reason this is getting overwhelming attention. He IS a "shock jock" isn't he? I agree that those comments were out of line and IF I listened to him in the first place I probably would not anymore if I were so offended.
Should he be punished? I think he has punished himself. Change the channel if you don't like what you see and hear, it is your choice!
Sexism and raceism are nothing like they used to be in the U.S. and I believe that trend will continue with or without Mr. Don Imus on the airwaves.
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As much as I do not like Don Imus, I do think freedom of speech is being violated here.
I have heard black ("African-Americans") make derogatory comments about white people
with no repercussions. If you don't like someone's speech, don't listen to them.
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As much as I do not like Don Imus, I do think freedom of speech is being violated here.
I have heard black ("African-Americans") make derogatory comments about white people
with no repercussions. If you don't like someone's speech, don't listen to them.
Imus can say what he pleases. However, when you are saying it on a station that has owners who have advertizers and an audience, someone has to be responsible.
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Imus can say what he pleases. However, when you are saying it on a station that has owners who have advertizers and an audience, someone has to be responsible.
How do you figure? Does that mean record labels are responsible for their artists?
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Imus can say what he pleases. However, when you are saying it on a station that has owners who have advertizers and an audience, someone has to be responsible.
I don't need the media to think for me......they try to do enough of that already.
That being said- I think he is a shameless racist. Should he be fired? maybe.... Does he have the right to say ignorant things? Yes he does, but he also has the right to deal with negative repercussions.
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If I am not mistaken, Don Imus has called everyone under the sun a ho or an empty suite or any number of other names. No shock there.
Does the apology mean anything? i don't think so. Even the suspension just creates more publicity, which he loves. Business as usual.
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It's just a reminder as to why I don't listen to him or the station he represents.
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Not that I condone what was said I think that far worse has been said by other people and it is just laughed at. If you look at the Rap and Hip-Hop scene you will find those same exact kind remarks in almost each and every song. I think this is just getting so much press because an old white guy said it. If it wasn't for Jesse Jackson and other black rights leaders screaming bloody murder about it I think it wouldn't have been blown up as big as it has. Should he be punished... Yes, but you should also be going after your own people that are using the same terms day in and out as terms of endearment. I have several black friends and work in a mostly black clinic. I hear what they call each other all day. Even with my closest friends I wouldn't be stupid enough to use the same remarks they do with each other because I know it would blow up in my face. There is a time, place, and audience for everything and that wasn't it in his case.
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Hawkeye you make a very good point- if this was said by a black,(and it IS every day) no-one would be saying its racist, because the black community seems to condone saying things like that to EACH OTHER-so is going after this old white guy not in itself a form of racisim? Why is some behavior okay for one group of people but not for everyone?
Let me also say i do not condone ignorant people saying ignorant things- and Imus is an idiot, but so is Sharpton and Jackson
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In my opinion he has the right to freedom of speech. As ignorant as it was to to say what he did, nobody is being forced to listen. This has not been the first time he has voiced offending comments but for some reason this is getting overwhelming attention. He IS a "shock jock" isn't he? I agree that those comments were out of line and IF I listened to him in the first place I probably would not anymore if I were so offended.
Should he be punished? I think he has punished himself. Change the channel if you don't like what you see and hear, it is your choice!
Sexism and raceism are nothing like they used to be in the U.S. and I believe that trend will continue with or without Mr. Don Imus on the airwaves.
Yeah, that's basically how I feel. Imus has said some really ignorant, hateful things over the years. He's said something about every ethnic and racial group, fat people, people with red hair, Italian people, women, Catholics, ect. That's what he is. It is controversy and it sells advertising spots. He picks on people like politicians, gays, public figures, stars. Whoever hired him knew this. HE was the original "shock jock" before even Howard Stern was in radio. If you grew up in the NYC area you grew up listening to Imus in the 70's. He's like a rash that won't go away but every now and then you have a bad case of it.
I've heard him say worse. So why all of a sudden are people up in arms about this particular remark? On a scale of 1-10 it barely rates a 4 in what he's said in the past about other groups and people. Was it because of a slow news weekend?
I think he was just spewing which is what he does, that's what he gets paid to do. Why else would you want to watch a boring radio show on TV??? Who wants to watch a 60 year old man who looks like deaths door who wears a huge cowboy hat? He makes Keith Richards look good! He has to make outrageous remarks. Who takes him seriously??
And Al Sharpton just jumped on it. And he himself has made remarks about Jews and white people. So much hypocrisy and BS! Very sad. Why can't we all just get along? :P
Donna
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I'm all for everyone's right to free speech. But what ever happened to plain old manners? He's a rude old man who is past his expiration date!
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And what happend to that guy from Grey's Anatomy, the African American actor that called the other actor a "Faggot" He had to go to rehab. I do not believe how anyone with any common sense or manners can say ANYTHING racist or sexual or derrogatory for that matter. I also hate how they always use the "Freedom of Speech" to fall back on, no people, that is not what "Freedom of Speech" is for, If you have something intelligent to say that is going to have meaning or a purpose, then by all means, speak up, work that Freedom of Speech, but if your going to sit there and judge people and put people down, then you are just as low as you can possibly can get. How sad to have a life to where someone has to put someone else down to make themselves feel better. Well, he better watch his back cuz i am sure some will even consider this a hate crime and retalliate in some way, just keep your freaken mouths shut!!! just my :twocents;
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Imus just got fired!
NEW YORK (AP) - MSNBC said Wednesday it will drop its simulcast of the "Imus in the Morning" radio program, responding to growing outrage about the radio host's racial slur against the Rutgers women's basketball team.
"This decision comes as a result of an ongoing review process, which initially included the announcement of a suspension. It also takes into account many conversations with our own employees," NBC news said in a statement.
The announcement also was made on air.
Talk-show host Don Imus triggered the uproar on his April 4 show, when he referred to the mostly black Rutgers women's basketball team as "nappy-headed hos." His comments have been widely denounced by civil rights and women's groups.
The decision does not affect Imus' nationally syndicated radio show, and the ultimate decision on the fate of that program will rest with executives at CBS Corp. In a statement, CBS reiterated that Imus will be suspended without pay for two weeks beginning on Monday, and that CBS Radio "will continue to speak with all concerned parties and monitor the situation closely."
MSNBC's action came after a growing list of sponsors—including American Express Co., Staples Inc., Procter & Gamble Co., and General Motors Corp.—said they were pulling ads from Imus' show for the indefinite future.
But it did not end calls for Imus to be fired from the radio portion of his program. The show originates from WFAN-AM in New York City and is syndicated nationally by Westwood One, both of which are managed by CBS Corp.
Bruce Gordon, former head of the NAACP and a director of CBS Corp., said before MSNBC's decision Wednesday he hoped the broadcasting company would "make the smart decision" by firing Imus.
"He's crossed the line, he's violated our community," Gordon said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press. "He needs to face the consequence of that violation."
Gordon, a longtime telecommunications executive, stepped down in March after 19 months as head of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, one of the foremost U.S. civil rights organizations.
He said he had spoken with CBS chief executive Leslie Moonves and hoped the company, after reviewing the situation, would fire Imus rather than let him return to the air at the end of an unpaid two-week suspension beginning next Monday.
A CBS spokesman, Dana McClintock, declined comment on the remarks by Gordon, who is one of at least two minorities on the 13-member board
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It could be the government attempting to distract everyone.
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They should take TV and Radio back about 30 years when you couldn't say "GOD" (in vain) or "Butt" because it was bad. Now they say everything. They may bleep out p*ck but you can read their lips. I just think all people should be held to the same standards. If "Nigger" is a bad word.... then NOBODY should say it without getting their mouth washed out with soap. I'm tired of this double standard crap that goes on.
Did you know the first couple in bed together on TV was Fred and Wilma Flintstone? Remember Lucy and Ricky had separate twin beds?
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Two words: Shock jock!
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Two words: Shock jock!
Cousin to jock itch!
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A comment was made in the last couple of days by a prominent media figure and I forget who that was that went something like this.."what Don Imus said was wrong but those comments are made about blacks by blacks within their community regularly."
If you listen to some currently popular music written by and performed by black artists you will frequently hear words deemed to be offensive to the black community and the whole population in general.
Why should it be ok for members of one racial group or community to freely sing and speak disparaging words about other members of that group or community when if a member of another racial group or community says the same things he is an immediate pariah?
Imus is a jerk, I've surfed into him from bed from time to time in the wee hours of the morning and just never liked his style. In a word, he and his show suck.
In broadcasting it is all about ratings. The higher the ratings the more you can charge for your commercials and the more money you make so in the end it is really about money.
Why do you think Howard Stern is still on the air (on Sirius). People actually listen to that junk and advertisers are willing to pay for it no matter how filthy or offensive the program material is.
It looks like Imus is done, not because of what he said but because of pressure being brought on the networks that carry him by "prominent" members of the targeted community and by a few advertisers eager to look favorable to the people who are screaming for his neck.
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No doubt what Imus did was distasteful.
The biggest joke is you got two racists like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson calling for Imus to be fired.
The hypocrisy from them two for their own past racist remarks to the comments they made about the boys in the Duke rape case makes what they want a joke.
Maybe those two ought to be serving up an apology to those boys and then resign from their own respective positions first before spewing their asinine bs.
IMO it seems those two see the writing on the wall in the Duke case coming down the pipe and this gave them the perfect timing to try to get everyones mind of the bs they pulled in that case.
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Hell yea BigSky!!! WE agree on something finally, now let me go check what you posted on Target,America.....lol ;)
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i think the point is this type of behavior shouldn't be exceptable in any form. derogatory statements shouldn't be made no matter what color or nationality you are. fortunately or unfortunately, depending on your point of view, imus has paid for his stupid and thoughtless remarks. the almighty dollar has won again, advertisers have voted with their feet and pulled their advertising. cbs fired imus today others should take notice and clean up their acts. whatever happened to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you. my momma don brought me up right :)
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I happen to love Snoop Dogg but I had to post this in case not everyone saw it.
Snoop Dogg: Don't Compare Me To 'This Punk' Don Imus
Posted by Tim Graham on April 11, 2007 - 17:19.
On the Imus vs. Rappers front, MTV News reports that rap star Snoop Dogg has issued a new "warning" to the public: Don't dare to compare his lyrics — or any other MC's — to Don Imus and his recent racially inflammatory comments. MTV says "the Dogg" found there is no parallel. The Rutgers women Imus ridiculed were a success story, while the women he knocks in his music are "ho's that's in the hood that ain't doing sh--."
MTV transmitted a long, profane self-defense Snoop offered in a phone interview:
"It's a completely different scenario," said Snoop, barking over the phone from a hotel room in L.A. "[Rappers] are not talking about no collegiate basketball girls who have made it to the next level in education and sports. We're talking about ho's that's in the 'hood that ain't doing sh--, that's trying to get a n---a for his money. These are two separate things. First of all, we ain't no old-ass white men that sit up on MSNBC [the cable network home to Imus] going hard on black girls. We are rappers that have these songs coming from our minds and our souls that are relevant to what we feel. I will not let them mutha-----as say we in the same league as him."
Snoop Dogg insisted "this punk" Imus deserved much more than a two-week suspension. He deserved to be fired. He should at least be punished like the NFL suspended Tennessee Titans football player Adam Jones for an entire season for scrapes with the police:
"Kick him off the air forever," he said. "Ban him like they did [Adam] 'Pacman' Jones. They kicked him out the [National Football] League for the whole season [for numerous violations of the NFL's personal-conduct policy, including multiple arrests], but this punk gets to get on the air and call black women 'nappy-headed ho's.' "
Can there be a plainer picture of a double standard?
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I happen to love Snoop Dogg but I had to post this in case not everyone saw it.
Snoop Dogg: Don't Compare Me To 'This Punk' Don Imus
Posted by Tim Graham on April 11, 2007 - 17:19.
On the Imus vs. Rappers front, MTV News reports that rap star Snoop Dogg has issued a new "warning" to the public: Don't dare to compare his lyrics — or any other MC's — to Don Imus and his recent racially inflammatory comments. MTV says "the Dogg" found there is no parallel. The Rutgers women Imus ridiculed were a success story, while the women he knocks in his music are "ho's that's in the hood that ain't doing sh--."
MTV transmitted a long, profane self-defense Snoop offered in a phone interview:
"It's a completely different scenario," said Snoop, barking over the phone from a hotel room in L.A. "[Rappers] are not talking about no collegiate basketball girls who have made it to the next level in education and sports. We're talking about ho's that's in the 'hood that ain't doing sh--, that's trying to get a n---a for his money. These are two separate things. First of all, we ain't no old-ass white men that sit up on MSNBC [the cable network home to Imus] going hard on black girls. We are rappers that have these songs coming from our minds and our souls that are relevant to what we feel. I will not let them mutha-----as say we in the same league as him."
Snoop Dogg insisted "this punk" Imus deserved much more than a two-week suspension. He deserved to be fired. He should at least be punished like the NFL suspended Tennessee Titans football player Adam Jones for an entire season for scrapes with the police:
"Kick him off the air forever," he said. "Ban him like they did [Adam] 'Pacman' Jones. They kicked him out the [National Football] League for the whole season [for numerous violations of the NFL's personal-conduct policy, including multiple arrests], but this punk gets to get on the air and call black women 'nappy-headed ho's.' "
Can there be a plainer picture of a double standard?
he is truly disgusting...it wouldn't hurt him to learn to speak properly and with some respect for other blacks. Ebonics is not proper enunciation, and its pretty hard to respect someone who does not respect himself (by calling himself a nigger, or nigga or whatever)
More people should stand up and speak out against some bulls**t double-standard that excuses such ignorant rhetoric
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No doubt what Imus did was distasteful.
The biggest joke is you got two racists like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson calling for Imus to be fired.
The hypocrisy from them two for their own past racist remarks to the comments they made about the boys in the Duke rape case makes what they want a joke.
Maybe those two ought to be serving up an apology to those boys and then resign from their own respective positions first before spewing their asinine bs.
IMO it seems those two see the writing on the wall in the Duke case coming down the pipe and this gave them the perfect timing to try to get everyones mind of the bs they pulled in that case.
I remember when Jesse Jackson called NYC Hymietown (a slur towarss Jewish people). Both Jaclson and Sharpton have made slurs against Jewish people and other groups. But we have to remember and I hear this from people I know who are black that Jackson and Sharpton don't speak for every black person. I know of a few black people that think Sharpton is an a-hole and are embarrassed by his antics. If there's a camera around that's where you'll find Sharpton. And Jesse Jackson has been forgiven for a few things he did like that affair he had which produced a child and paid the mother of the child with money from his group that people donated. Jackson is an old fashioned shake down artist, if you don't do what he says he screams boycott and he pressures companies by these means.
Donna
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snoop dog is no different than imus, even though he thinks he is
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snoop dog is no different than imus, even though he thinks he is
how right you are
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Well, he's a little different............he's the Snoop D.O. double G......lol
How does Snoop Dogg wash his clothes?
With Bleich
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snoop dog is no different than imus, even though he thinks he is
Shhhhh Gramma, dont say that too loud, he might get the Dawg Pound after ya ;) ;musicalnote; Laid back, with my mind on my money and my money on my mind ;musicalnote; ::)
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Did you know the first couple in bed together on TV was Fred and Wilma Flintstone?
I would pay good money to see them doing the nasty!
Didn't they only have four fingers on each hand???
8)
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Did you know the first couple in bed together on TV was Fred and Wilma Flintstone?
I would pay good money to see them doing the nasty!
Didn't they only have four fingers on each hand???
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ummmm....when I first got the internet....ummmmmm...I think you can google that and ummmmmmm.....actually see it Zach :o :o :angel;
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ooh susie, i'm so scared..............NOT
in my book snoop dog and his language is PURE TRASH.............but then i shouldn't make derogatory statements about anyone..........gee did i really say that.............
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Did you know the first couple in bed together on TV was Fred and Wilma Flintstone?
I would pay good money to see them doing the nasty!
Didn't they only have four fingers on each hand???
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ummmm....when I first got the internet....ummmmmm...I think you can google that and ummmmmmm.....actually see it Zach :o :o :angel;
8) Glitter, would you happen to have the link to that ;) shhhhhh, keep it on the downlow, wouldnt want anyone to think i was a freak like that :o :D
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glitter, just post the link! Who ever doesn't want to see it doesn't have to click the link. I want to see it! please ;D
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Actually- i saw it 3 or 4 years ago- it was just very funny so i remember it...I am sorry I do not have the link. ;D
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I would pay good money to see them doing the nasty!
Didn't they only have four fingers on each hand???
If you hunt around on the web there is such a cartoon. Of course it wasn't a Hanna-Barbara cartoon but it is drawn just as well.
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I think that everyone that wanted Imus fired would have been better served to have kept him on the air and used him as an advocate. They had this guy on his heels apologizing for what he said, couldn't they have used that to their advantage? With the spotlight shining bright Imus could have been a great pawn.
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I recently heard that ultimately his ranch for cancer kids will not be able to sustain itself if he is out of the public eye-
I think the price he is paying for three words is too high- (and he is an idiot)
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Imus Returning to the Airwaves
by Natalie Finn
Thu, 1 Nov 2007 06:01:27 PM PDT
Don Imus is once again gainfully employed.
The disgraced radio host has inked a deal with Citadel Broadcasting that will have him back in cars, kitchens and wherever else the airwaves reach on Dec. 3. Imus' new morning show will be based out of Citadel's New York talk station, WABC-AM, and will be syndicated through ABC Radio Networks.
Imus, who was noisily fired from CBS Radio in April after referring to Rutgers University's women's basketball team as a bunch of "nappy-headed ho's," has been lying low since Imus in the Morning was yanked. But behind the scenes, the shock jock had been negotiating his return to radio for weeks.
"We are ecstatic to bring Don Imus back to morning radio," WABC president and general manager Steve Borneman said Thursday. "Don's unique brand of humor, knowledge of the issues and ability to attract big-name guests is unparalleled. He is rested, fired up and ready to do great radio."
The 67-year-old broadcaster's new venture, which will also include right-hand newsman Charles McCord and other members of his old team, is going to replace WABC's current morning team of Curtis Sliwa and Ron Kuby. There's no word yet on whether Imus' longtime producer Bernard McGuirk, who prompted the onair exchange about the Rutgers team and was also fired by CBS, is coming along, as well.
At WABC, Imus joins a roster of established radio hosts that includes Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham, all notable conservatives.
Imus filed a $120 million breach-of-contract lawsuit against CBS Radio in May, claiming he was hired in the first place to be edgy and un-PC, and that the network owed him some hefty damages due to all the pain and anguish he was forced to endure in the wake of his very public dismissal.
The two sides settled in August, although CBS denied it had placated Imus by awarding him $20 million, as the Drudge Report said at the time. Perhaps more importantly, however, the deal freed Imus to look for work again.
Kia Vaughn, a particularly aggrieved member of the Rutgers squad, sued Imus for defamation this summer, as well, but she dropped her suit against him in September, opting to focus on her studies and sports instead.
Al Sharpton, whose own New York radio show provided a forum for Imus to apologize, but who later called for Imus' dismissal, said Thursday that it's now Citadel's responsibility to prevent further "vile and biased behavior" on Imus' part.
"Mr. Imus has the right to make a living, but we have the right to make sure he does not come back to disrupt our living," Sharpton said in a statement. "Particularly since these are commitments he made personally."
Knowing that hiring Imus was going to turn a few heads, Citadel Broadcasting CEO Farid Suleman told the New York Times early last month that the controversial host had paid his dues since being raked over the coals for his inappropriate remarks.
"He did something wrong," Suleman said. "He didn't break the law. He's more than paid the price for what he did. I think he should be evaluated by what he does going forward."
Citadel can only hope that all those potential listeners out there are willing to do the same.
Meanwhile, Imus is reportedly looking for a separate TV deal, like the one he used to have with MSNBC, to simulcast his show. Per the Times, Imus was spotted lunching at Fox headquarters in Manhattan with Fox News Channel chief executive Roger Ailes.
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I could be placated with 20 million dollars.
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I don't like the guy but everyone makes mistakes. His ratings will dictate popular opinion.
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An eight month vacation, 20 million bucks , and a bigger and better slot for his show......lol
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Sorry to sound dumb but what is a 'ho'?
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thats ebonics for 'whore'
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What's said is Imus was doing exactly what his bosses wanted him to do...be controversial, attract attentiion, stir the pot...while I don't agree with what he said, I can see how he'd think it was not job-threatening to say it. It'll be interesting to hear what approach he takes now...he's very smart, politically savvy and very funny...he doesn't have to do 'ho comments to be great radio.