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Title: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: George Jung on April 08, 2007, 11:58:20 AM
So I am making an attempt to go back to work tomorrow (Monday) and I am curious if anybody has some good advice.  I have not worked since starting dialysis (4 months) nor have I had any contact with any of my co -workers.  I have a bit of anxiety and I'm not sure how to handle the reactions of people or their comments/questions that I am sure will come my way.  I would love it if I could just walk in like nothing ever happened but I know there is no way on god's green earth that's going to happen.  I suppose I will just try to minimize the conversation and just stay busy the whole time but what else can I do?  Keep in mind that I work in a restaurant and employees there (like all restaurants) tend to gossip alot and get into everyone else's business.  I don't want any special attention or anybody feeling sorry for me (although I have a feeling that is out of my control).  Any thoughts are welcome.  Thanks - George  







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Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: Zach on April 08, 2007, 12:54:20 PM
Best thing a person on dialysis can do is go back to work!

Do you look about the same?  Beard and all?
You'll get a lot of, "How are you feeling?" "How are you doing?" etc.  Just say "fine" and move on.

Get to sleep early (that means no hanging out in the IHD chat room!), wake up early and have plenty of coffee!
Good Cookings!
 8)
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: goofynina on April 08, 2007, 01:03:30 PM
Hey George, that is awesome, glad you are going back to work!!  What is it that you do?  I do like Zach's advice, when they ask you "how are you doing"  tell them the question is "how are YOU doing?"  that way it will take the focus off of you :)  Good luck and let us know how your first day went ;)
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: jbeany on April 08, 2007, 02:21:18 PM
Use the gossip to your advantage, George.  Ask them what you missed while you were gone, and get them to talk about everyone else.  If they ask, dialysis is "fine, mostly boring sitting in the chair." 

Good luck!
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: MyssAnne on April 08, 2007, 03:45:54 PM
Jbeany is right, ask THEM what's new, what's been going on....people LOVE to talk about themselves,
and other people, just give them a chance!!! And she's right, what more can you say about dialysis
other than it's boring?
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: George Jung on April 08, 2007, 05:38:06 PM
Thanks for the replies you guys!  I AM just going to go in and cut loose with everyone.  I think as long as I don't bring attention to myself it won't be much of an issue.

Zach - I am in many ways ready to get back to work.  I think, if only a few days a week to start, having a purpose and responsibility (other than medical) is extremely important to me.  I just feel a little anxiety right now but I think it may go away once I confront it.  I did not have the beard when I left but I have worked there for over 3 years so most everyone has seen me with some sort of facial hair style.  I used to wear some big chops or a goat, whatever.  It still may cause attention, we'll see.

Thank you all again
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: Sluff on April 08, 2007, 07:39:27 PM
I wish you a lot of luck on your return to work. I'm sure you are nervous but I'm sure you have a lot of friends there.

Good luck my friend.  :thumbup;
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: George Jung on April 08, 2007, 09:06:00 PM
Thanks, I appreciate it!
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: livecam on April 09, 2007, 09:10:18 AM
Good move George!  It will pay off for you in many ways, especially after dialysis is in the past and you have a new kidney. I wouldn't worry about a thing..just go in there and do your best.  Good luck!
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: goofynina on April 09, 2007, 10:22:05 AM
OK George, whenever you punch out of your first day, we are here waiting to hear how it went  :popcorn;
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: okarol on April 09, 2007, 12:31:48 PM
Glad to hear you're going back to work. People will be curious for awhile, but they will adapt quickly.
Guess we will have to look for you in chat at a different time? What hours will you be working?
Hope all goes well!

Karol  :thumbup;
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: George Jung on April 09, 2007, 01:07:14 PM
Thanks everyone for your input and kind words. :thx;

Today was a lot better that I was imagining it would be.  Besides hearing about a kidney transplant success story 2 minutes after I walked in the door there wasn't any talk about me.  Not that I am not interested in kidney related success stories, I just don't want to talk about them while I am at my job.  The staff today was virtually all new with exception of 3 people including one of the owners so I think it may have an easy day for dealing with people.  Nobody knew anything ever happened which is how I would like most people to act (like nothing ever happened).  I don't mind talking about personal things to certain people but the staff are more like acquaintances, not friends.

What was most challenging for me was to not drink too much.  It didn't help that I woke up this morning with a sore throat and the feeling of a cold coming on but on top of that it is pretty warm in the kitchen and all I wanted to do was drink.  I used to work 12 - 14 hours a day @ 6 days a week and I hardly had enough in me to work 5 hours today.  I hope I can improve my stamina.  I don't know if I am just a bit rusty from so much time away or what, but I could tell my mental capacity (concentrating, remembering) was not as good as it was and I had to try to keep my patients with myself and other staff on a couple of occasions.  Overall it was very good and I am looking forward to doing it again on Friday.  I plan to temper myself back into it as much as I can, I will be cooking on Monday lunches, managing on Fridays and everyother Sunday for the first couple of weeks.  So that should be a walk in the park.  Should be.

Today did make me think about changing carears though, it is just such demanding work.  Any thoughts?

Again, thank you all.
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: Sluff on April 09, 2007, 01:20:56 PM
Congratulations on your first day and I think it's cool you made it as far as you did. Take baby steps, you can't expect to just go back to all those long hours. Changing careers is dependent what your skills are. I have thought about the same thing but I don't know anything else except what I already do. good luck on what ever decision you make.
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: jbeany on April 09, 2007, 01:22:52 PM
Maybe you need to think about what section of the food industry you are working in?  A full steam, active kitchen can be exhausting.  What about parts of it that are more off-hours?  I used to bake pastries for the family restaurant after the place had closed for the night. All the salad prep was done during the slow hours.  One of my aunts does salad prep for another nearby restaurant - she never works when it's busy - she usually goes in at the crack of dawn before the rest of the staff gets there.   Either way, you get the kitchen to yourself, and while there is plenty of work to be done, the pace isn't so insane as it is in the middle of dinner hour, with the place full of customers and harassed waitresses running around in circles.  How about a smaller, cafe-style restaurant or even a baked good shop that would let you work in the food industry without having to work in the crazed rush of a full service restaurant?  Some place where you could go in early in the morning or late at night, and prep for the next day's soups, salads or desserts?

Just my  :twocents;
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: carolyn77531 on April 09, 2007, 02:39:26 PM
i worked in resturants all my life...i know im not on dialysis..i quit my job....today was my first day after being off for about 5 months..i chage to another job.....so, what else to you know how to do...also do u love you job...if you love your job....then that will get you thru
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: Sluff on April 09, 2007, 05:55:54 PM
If you like what you do you'll do fine.
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: okarol on April 09, 2007, 06:05:13 PM
I worked in the motorcycle business for 7 years, selling parts, customer service, tech support, and trade shows. It was a lot of fun. I could see you doing that if it gets too hot in the kitchen!
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: George Jung on April 09, 2007, 07:31:06 PM
Yes, Karol!  Something along those lines is exactly what I had in mind.  Sales, parts, maybe even in the paint shop?  Along with my passion for the culinary field I have always been a motor head.  Who knows how things will change for in time but I am having difficulties believing that the restaurant world is going to be kind to me.  I don't think I would be happy in a kitchen unless I am going full on.  I like to be in charge and have my hand in everything that goes on.  jbeany had some very good thoughts that I will defiantly take into consideration.  As far as what else I know.........I know I am highly trainable, willing to take on classes (school), like working with people.  I am interested in restaurant equipment sales....maybe that would be a good avenue.  Anyhow, keep the thoughts coming if you have an idea, you all have been more help than you might realize!
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: Sluff on April 09, 2007, 08:08:51 PM
I worked in the motorcycle business for 7 years, selling parts, customer service, tech support, and trade shows. It was a lot of fun. I could see you doing that if it gets too hot in the kitchen!

That's an excellent idea.
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: Wattle on April 09, 2007, 08:16:07 PM
:2thumbsup; George congratulations on returning to work. Well done!

I work part-time, five hour shifts and its long enough for me. I continue to work when I come home.  :P

My dad was also a chef on dialysis, so I understand the demands of a kitchen on a dialysis patient. He went to catering functions from home. It was a lot easier than working all day then going to dialysis and coming home at midnight.

Going into sales sounds good. Cooking equipment or motorbikes would be ideal. You are passionate about both, have the gift of the gab and have a willingness to learn. Any employer would be lucky to have you!     ;)
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: kitkatz on April 09, 2007, 10:31:39 PM
I think it is great you went back to work. I have been working steadily the last eight years.  I need to work.  It makes me forget about my problems for a few hours.
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: MyssAnne on April 10, 2007, 11:17:00 AM
I agree, you tend to feel more 'normal' when you are working. I too am working 40 hours a week,
an office job. There is NO way I could do anything physical! I'd like to, but not right now, perhaps
as I gain back my strength.
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: angela515 on April 10, 2007, 11:23:17 AM
Speaking of work, I want to return to work SOOOO bad after not working for 3 years. However, right at the moment I got a catch 22.... I live 30 miles from town, I have no vehicle and my D.L. is suspended. My dad is not willing to work out a way to give me a ride to be able to go to work, due to gas prices, and due to I would have to work a graveyard shift so I'm home to get my kids off to school in the morning and be home in the afternoon when they get off the bus, because he works days, and would get no sleep.

So, I have to get a car to go to work, and work to get a car. Lovely. Right now i'm working on paying off a 1600 ticket to get my D.L. unsuspended, and then my mom says my dad will help me get a car... we shall see... and this wont be for at least 3 or 4 months before I have my D.L. back, the goverment don't pay enough to support myself and kids AND pay huge amounts on a ticket.

Life is crazy! I look at the positive side though... I'm home all day everyday, so I use that time to start eating healthy, and working out to lose the weight I have gained over the last 5 years. Teehee.
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: MyssAnne on April 10, 2007, 11:38:41 AM
I understand, Angela!  It's a catch 22 any more. And living out in the boonies does not help. There's another post somewhere in here, someone can't afford to do his dialysis 3 times weekly because he is so far from the center. That is so not right.  I am fortunate to have had the job already, and to have everything I need fairly close by.
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: Stacy Without An E on April 10, 2007, 03:50:56 PM
Being able to return to work while on Dialysis is an amazing accomplishment so kudos to you.  It also allows you to reach a level of normacy and remind you that Dialysis doesn't have to control your life.

My only problem on workdays is because I need to keep the energy up for the radio show, I slam a little too many Coca-Cola during the day for the caffiene (not a coffee drinker).  Yes, phosphorous is my mortal enemy.

I agree with people's suggestion to deflect the questions as much as possible.  I get nervous when people ask about my condition, so that's good advice.

Good luck and Godspeed.
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: Bill Peckham on April 11, 2007, 10:44:00 PM
I started working through the carpenters union three years after starting dialysis (one of these days I'll finish my introduction). I work as a trade show specialist, i.e. set up conventions and trade shows. When you first start you get all the hard shifts and are the first to start sweating; last to stop. I didn't think I'd get through the first shift but I did and I was called back.

I wouldn't have gone to the gym for eight hours but I finished those shifts. The work is what turned what was clearly a downward spiral - not exercising, not eating, not sleeping well, repeat - into an upward spiral. The more I worked the better I slept, the more I ate (I'd actually eat breakfast, lunch and dinner), the more I could work. I just never said no. There were times I had to take a knee but I would try what ever a foreman thought I should be doing. I spent about half my shifts in the field doing the physical work and half my time making graphics, at first on a reverse ink press, now with computer driven large format printers.

The physical work was a positive in my case but working my way into making graphics instead of kicking out carpet is a definite plus. Now I have to make an effort to exercise.

I've always been "out"when it came to dialysis. I used it in the sense that some foreman would want me to work - when there are a couple big conventions in town there is way more work than people - and I'd say I could work tomorrow but I was going to dialyze - if I work I die. I'd say this in as dramatic a way possible. In the union unimpeachable, unique excuses are highly regarded and no one can top mine. I also b*tch when people I'm working with a guy and he announces he's going to "take a piss" - I mumble f***in' show off, or call him a urinator. This sort of talk passes for union humor and goes over very well. If I take a shift I see it through but they couldn't make me feel guilty for turning down shifts. Now my employer does all sorts of in kind donations for the Northwest Kidney Centers. In the last 11 years I have made thousands of posters on just about every topic, not to mention the Kidney Expo (it's October 27th this year). Most of the office staff go to the yearly NKC Foundation breakfast - I see the NKC calendars on their desks.

So be you and do not assume what you can and can't do - give it a go and find out. You'll surprise yourself.
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: George Jung on April 12, 2007, 06:22:40 PM
Tomorrow will be day # 2.  I must say that I am looking forward to it.  Quite a change in feelings from earlier in the week.  Optimistically, I think I am on my way to turning some things around and living a better life than I have been.  My life has been a train wreck since last November but I am gaining mental strength (thanks in part to IHD) and then I will be able to work on getting back to where I was physically (maybe better than before).  I do need to think about a careear path for the future still.  Plan B, ya know!  :2thumbsup;  Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: Sluff on April 12, 2007, 06:39:50 PM
George I remember your first couple of posts and I would have to agree that you've gotten stronger maybe just less angry and in my opinion you've come to accept life more on your terms and I think you are a little happier.

Part of that acceptance is being allowed to have your own feelings show and being accepted by others no matter your opinions.

I appreciate (most) ;) of your posts and your opinions.

I hope you continue to work and get stronger both mentally and physically, but please don't stop posting and visiting us, because sometimes your opinions and or comments helps us too. Someone somewhere needs to hear, what you've got to say.

I hope you understand what I'm saying.

Good luck friend, I am glad IHD has been a positive influence in your life.

Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: goofynina on April 12, 2007, 06:59:55 PM
Tomorrow will be day # 2.  I must say that I am looking forward to it.  Quite a change in feelings from earlier in the week.  Optimistically, I think I am on my way to turning some things around and living a better life than I have been.  My life has been a train wreck since last November but I am gaining mental strength (thanks in part to IHD) and then I will be able to work on getting back to where I was physically (maybe better than before).  I do need to think about a careear path for the future still.  Plan B, ya know!  :2thumbsup;  Thanks everyone.

I love it when i hear someone with this disease does not let it take over their lives, i think it makes me stronger as well, gives me that little "ooomph" i need.  You go George, like the song says "Ain't no stoppin' us now"   I believe you can do anything you damn well want to do, just as long as you take us along with you on your journey, deal? deal!  And i am so glad that IHD has been a big part of regaining your mental strength,  i blame IHD for losing my mental everything :P  i've done gone cuckoo!!  But i am loving every minute of it and i wouldnt change it for the world,  love ya and everyone else here too  :grouphug;
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: carolyn77531 on April 13, 2007, 05:59:20 AM
goofynina, u know you are a amazing woman...alote of poeple here are so strong..why do i feel like my world is falling apart..im not the one who is on dialysis...my daughter is so strong such a fighter..i just wish i can i have the half strengh as she has most of you guys..i have been dealing with all her life.....this is a great site...yall have taught me so much
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: nextnoel on April 13, 2007, 10:33:22 AM
CONGRATULATIONS, GEORGE!  IT'S FRIDAY, AND YOU'RE MADE IT!  TGIF ! :clap;
I'm proud of you! :clap; :2thumbsup; :thumbup;
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: Sluff on April 13, 2007, 11:06:48 AM
 ;musicalnote; ;musicalnote; It's finally friday ..gettin ready for a wild weekend..time to let the good times roll.. ;musicalnote; ;musicalnote;
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: goofynina on April 13, 2007, 11:18:48 AM
goofynina, u know you are a amazing woman...alote of poeple here are so strong..why do i feel like my world is falling apart..im not the one who is on dialysis...my daughter is so strong such a fighter..i just wish i can i have the half strengh as she has most of you guys..i have been dealing with all her life.....this is a great site...yall have taught me so much

Thank you Carolyn, but i believe the amazing woman is YOU my friend.  Believe me, i would much rather be the one going through this disease than to see my child suffering from it.  Your world is not falling apart, it is just not the way you'd like it to be, you have to make the best with what you have.  It is apparent you cannot change the world and all that happens, all you can do is jump on this rollercoaster of a ride we call "life" and try to have the best fun you can have, take this from someone suffering from ESRD and so many other ailments, i know it aint easy, Lord do i know!! :P  You hang in there girlfriend, and always remember, we are here for you, it is this site that has helped me cope with my problems too, so please, come here often as you can and let it out, hope to hear from you soon,   :cuddle;

 :-* xoxoxo
Goofynina
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: George Jung on April 13, 2007, 02:50:01 PM
Today was great!  Went in at 10am, wrote some checks, received some product, went and bought produce at the market, counted money, went to the bank, expedited lunch orders, and supervised staff for the rest of the afternoon.  It defiantly feels good, I think work is a blessing.  When you have to work sometimes you might wish you were just filthy rich so you could do nothing but after doing nothing for so long it can have very negative effects.  Like I said, work is a blessing, everything depends how how you view it.

Everybody's words of encouragement and support are truly meaningful.  Thank you all.

* I forgot to mention...there was only 2 or 3 very small instances about how I was doing and 1 very big hug, so that helped too.
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: Sluff on April 13, 2007, 05:57:04 PM
Good for you George. :thumbup;
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: thegrammalady on April 14, 2007, 06:49:08 AM
yea george!! glad it's going well, keep it up
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: kitkatz on April 14, 2007, 08:39:20 AM
Just do what the rest of us poor working Joes do.  One day at a time. Wait until vacations and the weekends.
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: Ohio Buckeye on April 14, 2007, 06:33:45 PM
Congratulations George!
It is a great thing that you could return to work.
I am so glad for you.
Keep pressing on!
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: George Jung on April 15, 2007, 12:59:33 AM
Thanks Buckeye, I really do feel it is a blessing.

 Obviously it won't solve my problems but what it does do is put me on the right track to whatever bit of normalcy (normal for me) is left in my life.  Getting over the initial windfalls of the reality of the disease and dialysis is the toughest challenge I have ever faced..... by far!!!  All of my focus was on what ifs and whys and hows and I was getting nowhere, I have had bouts of depression in the past but these past months have been the most intense.  I have no doubt that depression will rear it's ugly head again, all I can do is try to be prepared for it, give myself some outlets and try to be strong.  Being physically and mentally active is a great way to build that strength.  It also helps to have a place to come and say what it is you are thinking and not be crucified for doing so. - Thank you Epoman.
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: Sluff on April 15, 2007, 09:58:01 AM
Congratulations George!
It is a great thing that you could return to work.
I am so glad for you.
Keep pressing on!


How absolutely generous with your encouraging words after what you are going through. OB you are a gem!  :grouphug;
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: Ohio Buckeye on April 15, 2007, 08:17:45 PM
George, you have a great attitude and have come a long way in meeting
this challenging time of your life.  Depression is always lurking over our
shoulders looking for a ride.  Tell it you don't pick up hitchhikers. Not making
light of it tho as I had deep depression when I lost my husband and know
how hard it is to deal with.  You are doing great.  Have a good week on the job.
You are right, it is a blessing to be able to work.

And Sluff, thank you for the kind comments.  I hope I always have an encouraging
word as long as I breathe as we all at times need to hear words of encouragement to meet
these challenges and sometimes prayer for strength to endure the day (or night).
I hope I can always be an encourager, no matter what!


Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: George Jung on April 16, 2007, 08:30:38 PM
I said it was a blessing to work?  I sure didn't feel blessed today!  3rd day back and I am the only cook!  Lunch is a two man show, we usually do about $1000 in business.  Come on.....thanks a lot.  On top of that the reach in freezer is empty!  It had frozen up the last night and someone emptied it to de-thaw but never un-plugged the damn thing so I had to work without it...running back and forth from the walk-in to the line.  It wasn't crazy busy but I sure felt like it was.  I had one of the owners trying to help me ......the guy is 6'2" and probably 275.......he is not small and he doesn't know where everything is and he just gets in my way....so frustrating.  But I took it cool and told him I have it under control and got him out from the line.  I used to be the guy to count on in situation like the one I had today, but I didn't realize I had signed up for that again.  What are you gonna do?  I was thinking about learning Spanish and finding work as a translator.  Any thoughts on that?
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: Sluff on April 16, 2007, 08:34:48 PM
Great idea George.
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: okarol on April 16, 2007, 08:39:29 PM
That may take awhile.
You can go to http://www.carolinamcevents.com/ and post your resume under "I need a job" and also check out "Help Wanted"
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: George Jung on April 16, 2007, 08:55:14 PM
Thanks for the link Karol.  I will see what comes of it for sure.  As for learning a new language taking awhile.....I will probably be on dialysis for awhile too so that might be the perfect time to take up a new study.  I know kitchen Spanish and have always wanted to learn...are you familiar with careear opportunities?  I bet I can learn it faster than some! ;)
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: goofynina on April 16, 2007, 09:05:48 PM
That may take awhile.
You can go to http://www.carolinamcevents.com/ and post your resume under "I need a job" and also check out "Help Wanted"

Okarol, i need a job, got a link for me :)   now wait, i dont do windows, i dont do laundry, i dont do homework, i dont do... (well, i can for the right price)  :o :P  ;)    i just need some source of income, we're hurtin' over here, any suggestions?
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: okarol on April 17, 2007, 12:38:33 AM
Goofynina:

According to employers, the top 10 personal characteristics they seek in job candidates are:

   1. Communication skills
   2. Work experience
   3. Motivation/initiative
   4. Teamwork skills
   5. Leadership abilities
   6. High GPA/academic credentials:
   7. Technical skills
   8. Interpersonal skills
   9. Analytical skills
  10. Ethics

And, according to employers, the top skills they look for in job candidates are:

   1. Interpersonal
   2. Teamwork
   3. Verbal communication
   4. Analytical
   5. Computer
   6. Written communication
   7. Leadership

So what are your strengths? Skills? Talents (ok, don't go there...!)
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: George Jung on April 17, 2007, 09:07:33 AM
goofynina, what sort of work have you done in the past?  I might know of some possibilities. ;)
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: goofynina on April 17, 2007, 04:34:34 PM
goofynina, what sort of work have you done in the past?  I might know of some possibilities. ;)

Hmmm, well i started babysitting since i was 9, went to job corps to become a nurses assistant (but all i became was an alcoholic at the age of 18) :P  came home and finished my schooling to become a nurses aide, worked at a convalescent hospital (and that was heartbreaking)  applied for a printing company and became a customer service rep for 4 years which i absolutely loved (the job, not the people) , so i decided i wanted to be my own boss so i opened up a home day care in my home from '91 - '03  and here i am,  i've done some other jobs but..........oh nevermind :P ;)
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: Bill Peckham on April 17, 2007, 05:22:32 PM
I know of an opportunity. Russ at globaldialysis.com put together a print directory that he is selling in Europe and he needs someone in the US to call units and see if they'd be interested in a directory. Russ reports that people have been very interested and sales are good. I have no idea what the terms are, etc. but I think you could do it from home and the US is big enough if more than one of youse guys are interested in checking it out. It sells for, I think 70 something Euros so like $100 US, which I imagine allows for a nice commission for those doing the selling. PM me if you're interested.

(Full disclosure: I wrote the forward but I receive nothing but accolades for my my effort (Russ did send me a DVD and Petter Quaffie's book of dialysis cartoons as a thank you) - no money changes hands this sales opportunity is just an FYI).
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: st789 on April 19, 2007, 06:58:38 PM
This is a great discussion.  I have been away for a while, glad to be back.  I have been doing a lot of thinking myself about my career and I still thinking, just like some of us.  While on dialysis for 4.5 years, I just go to school and still it was a struggle physically just like many of us experienced.  After kidney transplant, I feel must better.  I am sure I will return to dialysis in the near future, thus I am looking at some possible in home businesses so that I still can have the income when dialysis is rough. Any advices or sources to look into. Currently I am working but is not a career.  My work experience is limited thus sometimes it is hard for me to communicate with co-workers due probably to dialysis and being very introver person, which is not good and not very sociable personallity and I try to change it.  I need to work on my communication due to being diagnosed with the disease and I unintentionally suppress my emotions.  My co-workers all think I am too shy.  I hope I do not sound like a whiner, but it helps to type this here.  Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: Duane on April 20, 2007, 02:04:51 AM
After reading the posts about work and energy, I'm starting to believe it's not me being lazy, it's my kidney disease and what comes with it.

I've worked all my life in sales/marketing and management, worked up to 50hrs per week salary/commission jobs.

Now on SSDI (Social Security Disability Ins) they have what's called (Spend-down) before Medicaid kicks in to provide 100% medical. My spend-down is $900 per month, in other words all over $650 in income goes towards ssi spend down before i recieve medical coverage for that month and every month.

I can work but only allowed to make about $600 while staying on ssdi. All over that and in time they will take me off ssdi.

so working under the table is my only solution, money that's not reported. What do you say in this matter?

I might be fine today, but tomorrow i will have to recoop. :banghead;
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: paris on April 20, 2007, 05:01:12 PM
Ok, George, I need to know the restaurant!!!   George and I live in the same town - my kids went to the same middle school that he went to.  I need to find their yearbooks and look George up!  My daughter is the same age and they had to be at the school during the same time period. The world really is small!  Also, George, your posts are so full of positive thinking. You really have come along way in the past few months.  It is amazing how this site helps us get through daily life.  So--- what's for lunch?????
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: goofynina on April 20, 2007, 05:35:18 PM
After reading the posts about work and energy, I'm starting to believe it's not me being lazy, it's my kidney disease and what comes with it.

I've worked all my life in sales/marketing and management, worked up to 50hrs per week salary/commission jobs.

Now on SSDI (Social Security Disability Ins) they have what's called (Spend-down) before Medicaid kicks in to provide 100% medical. My spend-down is $900 per month, in other words all over $650 in income goes towards ssi spend down before i recieve medical coverage for that month and every month.

I can work but only allowed to make about $600 while staying on ssdi. All over that and in time they will take me off ssdi.

so working under the table is my only solution, money that's not reported. What do you say in this matter?

I might be fine today, but tomorrow i will have to recoop. :banghead;

I'd say shhhh, watch what you say to who and where and dont get caught ;)  Good luck to you and keep us posted on what'cha find out there, we are here for you  :grouphug;
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: goofynina on April 20, 2007, 05:38:25 PM
Ok, George, I need to know the restaurant!!!   George and I live in the same town - my kids went to the same middle school that he went to.  I need to find their yearbooks and look George up!  My daughter is the same age and they had to be at the school during the same time period. The world really is small!  Also, George, your posts are so full of positive thinking. You really have come along way in the past few months.  It is amazing how this site helps us get through daily life.  So--- what's for lunch?????


Paris and George?? how long have you known this?? You two need to have an IHD Mini Meet in your area and take some pics,  we have a thread especially for these "little togethers" so please, plan something, but make sure you include all of us ;) ;)
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: Duane on April 20, 2007, 06:04:02 PM
Nina  :thx; Our Father answers prayers sometimes through the words of people talking to us.

Most of my life i always tried to be slick and cut corners, and that's a good thing and when it comes to the law, now that's another story.

So today I follow the law. My Father told me to: Give to Ceasar what is Ceasar's and render unto God what is God's.


Matthew 22:21  They said, "Caesar's." Then he said to them, "Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." 

Posting this passage above in no way is it intended to push what i  believe in on anyone this is just where i'm at in my life today.

Caesar in today terms is our Government and the law.

So Thanks Nina for helping me stay on the right track about making an income. :-\ :clap;

Love ya
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: okarol on April 21, 2007, 12:31:04 AM
Reading this thread made me think about how important it is too work if you can, especially in the US after a transplant. I always have in the back of my mind that Jenna's medcare coverage for her anti-rejection meds will run out 3 years from her transplant. It seems pretty far off now, but the last 3 months have actually sped by. She needs to get a job that has a good insurance plan so she won't have to worry about paying full price for the meds. So this next couple of years is like a training period, where she can get ready.
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: paris on April 21, 2007, 10:04:30 AM
We have just recently figured out the whole living in the same town thing!  I haven't posted for a few weeks -- but am back amoung the "living" so maybe George and I can put faces to names!  Fox NC lives in the area, also. Anyone heard from her lately?  Goofynina, I promise to work on George and I meeting!
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: angela515 on April 21, 2007, 02:22:56 PM
Reading this thread made me think about how important it is too work if you can, especially in the US after a transplant. I always have in the back of my mind that Jenna's medcare coverage for her anti-rejection meds will run out 3 years from her transplant. It seems pretty far off now, but the last 3 months have actually sped by. She needs to get a job that has a good insurance plan so she won't have to worry about paying full price for the meds. So this next couple of years is like a training period, where she can get ready.

There is company's out there where the insurance starts day 1 or within first 30 days... After my first transplant I got a job at Citbank (Citigroup), and benefits start day 1. Whats funny is, I went on maternity leave the next day lol... I was a temp for 3 months prior though.

But yah, keep an eye out for companys like that with insurances like that. :)

Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: okarol on April 21, 2007, 11:10:28 PM
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Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: George Jung on April 22, 2007, 03:53:48 PM
paris - you don't have to "work" me to get togeather.  I am kinda busy for the next couple of weeks but we can plan on something for the near future.
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: vandie on April 22, 2007, 03:59:10 PM
I said it was a blessing to work?  I sure didn't feel blessed today!  3rd day back and I am the only cook!  Lunch is a two man show, we usually do about $1000 in business.  Come on.....thanks a lot.  On top of that the reach in freezer is empty!  It had frozen up the last night and someone emptied it to de-thaw but never un-plugged the damn thing so I had to work without it...running back and forth from the walk-in to the line.  It wasn't crazy busy but I sure felt like it was.  I had one of the owners trying to help me ......the guy is 6'2" and probably 275.......he is not small and he doesn't know where everything is and he just gets in my way....so frustrating.  But I took it cool and told him I have it under control and got him out from the line.  I used to be the guy to count on in situation like the one I had today, but I didn't realize I had signed up for that again.  What are you gonna do?  I was thinking about learning Spanish and finding work as a translator.  Any thoughts on that?

George,
In California, a State certified Spanish interpreter, depending on the county, can make 290$ a day.
Not sure about other states.

Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: George Jung on April 22, 2007, 04:39:16 PM
I talked to my friend who works at a hospital and she said they have full time interrupters that make around $20 hr.That's not great but it isn't bad either.  $290 a day sounds pretty good to me!  I have been seriously considering pursuing this option.  I believe I am fully capable of learning and doing the job and I believe it would be a rewarding position in almost any setting.  Essentially, I would be helping others.  There also seems to be many different possibilities that could open up so for right now I am going to check into classes for the fall semester.  My grandfather is from Cuba so I am contemplating moving in with him (N.J.) so he could teach me.
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: goofynina on April 22, 2007, 04:44:47 PM
$290.00 a day  :o  Good Lord!!  I dont know what you will be doing, and i dont know how legal (or illegal) it is, but George, if you dont take it, you best believe i'm gonna :P  ;)   (yah right, who am i kidding)  but that sounds like some pretty good moolah to me  :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: vandie on April 22, 2007, 04:52:36 PM
$290.00 a day  :o  Good Lord!!  I dont know what you will be doing, and i dont know how legal (or illegal) it is, but George, if you dont take it, you best believe i'm gonna :P  ;)   (yah right, who am i kidding)  but that sounds like some pretty good moolah to me  :2thumbsup;

LOL @ Susie. . . .
The downside of a Court Interpreter is the element with which you are dealing.
Interpeters have to translate from the cage, right next to the custody.   They are shackled, but some of those boys and girls are pure evil.


 
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: goofynina on April 22, 2007, 05:14:13 PM
$290.00 a day  :o  Good Lord!!  I dont know what you will be doing, and i dont know how legal (or illegal) it is, but George, if you dont take it, you best believe i'm gonna :P  ;)   (yah right, who am i kidding)  but that sounds like some pretty good moolah to me  :2thumbsup;

LOL @ Susie. . . .
The downside of a Court Interpreter is the element with which you are dealing.
Interpeters have to translate from the cage, right next to the custody.   They are shackled, but some of those boys and girls are pure evil

Oh Puhlease, Honey, i ran a day care with 14 kids, they dont know what they're dealing with ;)  lol
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: paris on April 22, 2007, 05:36:37 PM
George, I am sure one day we can figure out schedules.  How is the job going?   My DIL is a nurse at Wake Med and she says they are always desperate for interpretors.  Sounds like a good long range plan.  Does Wake Tech offer the classes you would need?   Hope work goes well for you this week.
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: George Jung on April 22, 2007, 08:36:58 PM
The job is going great!  Still very little talk about dialysis or my health.  I can count on one hand the questions I have been asked, everyone has just been glad to see me and to have me back.  I have not felt over extended working 8 hour shifts (just p.o.'ed the one day by myself) and it was really nice to get paid again (today).  More than the money, the social interaction and physical activity have been priceless, I would do it just for those benefits alone (but the pay day is alright).  The work has been the most therapeutic activity I have experienced.  I have been to psychiatrists, tried meds, took up a new hobby, joined IHD, which all have helped in some small way but working has been key for me.  My friend Christian helped give me a reason to live and work is enabling me to keep my mental health from going to hell. 

My uncle e-mailed me a few days ago and asked me if I'd be interested in a catering job.  His daughter is graduating from ECU and she asked if I could cater a party for her.  I did a luau party for her when she graduated from highschool and she requested me to do something similar for her again.  It was a nice feeling to be remembered like that and I am really excited about doing this party.  I think I am going to do everything "mini" starting with some of my jalapeno, cheddar and onion burgers, It should be a good time.  Some of my family will be visiting from out of state so it will be nice to see them as well.

About my possible new careear path, any suggestions/thoughts anybody?  Wake Tech (local school) does offer classes which I will be looking into.  I am thinking I could learn the language in a 2 - 3 year time period, does that sound reasonable to anyone? 
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: goofynina on April 22, 2007, 08:41:27 PM
George, you mentioned you catered for a "Luau" before?  I have some friends who are having a luau for a bridal shower and they are having a hard time figuring out a menu, can you please maybe pm me some ideas of some simple, yet filling dishes or finger foods.  I (and they) would greatly appreciate it.  thank you  ::)
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: kitkatz on April 22, 2007, 08:59:49 PM
So here it is folks.
I pretty much am stressed out and exhausted all the time at work.  So here are my ideas to make it through the rest of the school year with my sanity intact.  Tell me if it sounds too crazy.

1. Call a psych through work or Kaiser and get an appointment to talk to someone.  I feel I am in the miiddle of a crisis and need help.
2. Call my nephrologist for an apoointment for sick leave days.
3. Call my union and ask them to represent me for accomodations with the school district in a 504 Plan.
4. Take a day off a week to do something different and fun for myself.  So my life quits being dialysis and work all of the time.

I cried all of the way to work in my car on Friday. My poor husband thinks I have gone completely crazy. All I do now is cry all over him at night.  I function minimally with the kids at work and am not my usual cheerful self. Something has to give. 


Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: goofynina on April 22, 2007, 09:19:12 PM
Kit, you go ahead and cry on him all you want, HE is your safe place to fall, rememberrrr??  ;)  We are always here for you as well, oh, and on one of those days off when you want to get in the car to go, come on up to my place, we can always sit and cry together  :cuddle;
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: kitkatz on April 22, 2007, 09:23:35 PM
I may take you up on that offer.
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: paris on April 23, 2007, 04:24:15 PM
George, I think the 2-3 year plan is very reasonable. You seem to have determination and the will to achieve.   We seem to have several things in common - I have done catering for years; well until the kidney thing came along. I love the "mini" foods idea. It will make for an easy party for people to eat and visit.  My daughter lives in Hawaii - need any authentic food ideas?  Glad work is going well. There was an article in the local paper on Sunday about the importance of working while dealing with severe illness.  I agree that the social part is almost as important as the paycheck.  Keep us updated on the luau!
Title: Re: Returning to the Work Place
Post by: George Jung on April 23, 2007, 05:05:42 PM
Thanks paris.  I am not doing the luau this time but goofynina knows someone who is and I'd bet my kidneys that she would like to hear from you.  What sort of catering experience do you have?