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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: Transplant Discussion => Topic started by: kristina on April 30, 2015, 03:37:27 AM

Title: Growth-Hormones in food affecting Transplant?
Post by: kristina on April 30, 2015, 03:37:27 AM
A remark I recently heard from a cancer specialist though not in any way detailed gave me cause to think.
Could growth-hormone - natural or artificial - inspire cancer growth?
Dairy-cattle-milk is a growth hormone. Dairy cattle are also given – and this is within the law – added growth hormones used to speed production.
Dairy milk is used in many commonly consumed foods for example cheese, butter, yoghurt as well as milk itself.  These products can be used in bread-making, pastry, cakes, biscuits, chocolate and other confectionary etc. Growth-hormone is also given to cattle reared for their meat. An egg is a growth-hormone-bomb necessary for the little chicks to grow fast.
Eggs are commonly used in cakes, pastry, biscuits, omelettes and by themselves etc. Sometimes dairy-products and eggs are combined. It is not readily broadcast, but there is suspicion that growth-hormones are given to fish that are reared in fish-farms to speed-up growth. Growth-hormones - naturally or artificially given - are directly connected to accelerated growth. So, could these foods either in high consumption or regular consumption inspire cancer to grow very much more rapidly, than it would otherwise do without such growth hormones? Now, if this might be the case, what happens, when patients are given immune-suppressants which “knock out” the body’s natural defence mechanism, thus allowing tiny cancer cells to be inspired and grow by virtue of the massive consumption of growth-hormones in food sources? 
It is interesting that in animals growth-hormones stop after they are reared, except some animals who eat the eggs of other animals ... What  do you think?
Thanks from Kristina.
Title: Re: Growth-Hormones in food affecting Transplant?
Post by: cassandra on April 30, 2015, 06:12:48 AM
That there's hormones, anti-biotics, heavy metals, poisons in everything we eat breath, or drink. So some become ill, some die, and some are healthy and happy till they die at age 110. You can be lucky, or you're not. Sorry

      :angel;
Title: Re: Growth-Hormones in food affecting Transplant?
Post by: Athena on April 30, 2015, 07:01:34 AM
Kristina, I am inclined to see natural growth hormones versus man-made artificial growth hormones as entirely different. I have no problems with the former, which as you say is found naturally in foods like eggs and the meat of young animals. I have never heard that eating these things can be harmful to human health. As such I don't believe there is any cancer risk. But with artificial growth hormones,  I'm not so sure. I distrust most things of a man-made artificial nature.

Just my thoughts. I agree with Cas as well - Life can be one great lottery!
Title: Re: Growth-Hormones in food affecting Transplant?
Post by: noahvale on April 30, 2015, 07:10:39 AM
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Title: Re: Growth-Hormones in food affecting Transplant?
Post by: kristina on May 01, 2015, 01:53:30 PM
Thank you for your thoughts cassandra, Athena and noahvale, it is very much appreciated.
It is true what you say cassandra, some people are lucky and some are not so lucky
and life can be one great lottery, as Athena has pointed out.
It is also difficult to know what is good for us to eat and what we should avoid at all times.
...The difference between "Sirolimus" and "Tacrolimus" sounds almost like a bit of "Russian Roulett2...
... And it is true, noahvale, I have posted this question because I am in the process of getting “worked-up” for the big day...
... and I am thinking about the vulnerability of my body when starting with post transplant medications...
... Many thanks for posting the Serenity Prayer by Reinhold Niebuhr. I have been wondering in which context I came across his name,
but I can’t think of it at the moment... Perhaps I have heard of him in the context of European exiles/asylum seekers and political refugees
receiving much needed financial assistance after arriving in America in the 1930’s?
Thanks again from Kristina.