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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: News Articles => Topic started by: lainiepop on August 17, 2014, 01:19:48 AM

Title: UK dialysis users not aware might want to read and sign this! Cuts being made!
Post by: lainiepop on August 17, 2014, 01:19:48 AM
https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/kidney-dialysis-funding-cut-backs-announced-august2014?source=facebook-share-button&time=1408225678

Hope u can all see the link, I only read it via anothe kidney site about cuts !
Title: Re: UK dialysis users not aware might want to read and sign this! Cuts being made!
Post by: Poppylicious on August 17, 2014, 09:23:52 AM
Had no idea about this.  Have now signed!

 ;D
Title: Re: UK dialysis users not aware might want to read and sign this! Cuts being made!
Post by: lainiepop on August 17, 2014, 11:42:19 AM
It was flagged up on a renal Facebook site, obviously renal disease is not important in the UK or newsworthy!!!
Title: Re: UK dialysis users not aware might want to read and sign this! Cuts being made!
Post by: kristina on August 17, 2014, 01:05:43 PM


Thank you Iainiepop to bring this paper to our attention.

I have been reading through this paper but I cannot quite comprehend what it is supposed to mean...?
(.... that might be connected with the fact that I am currently having a terrible flu and my high temperature makes my thinking a bit difficult)...
... but I do not comprehend where exactly NHS funding for dialysis is meant to be cut down...?
Is it the time of dialysis for each patient which is being cut down? Or does it mean a cut down on dialysis facilities in Britain...?
Or does it mean that transplants are "being pushed" forward a bit... to avoid dialysis for ESRF-patients?

Does anyone know what exactly is meant by this strange text...?

Does it not sounds a bit like "scare-mongering" ...?

Thanks from Kristina.
Title: Re: UK dialysis users not aware might want to read and sign this! Cuts being made!
Post by: Woody72 on August 17, 2014, 11:06:30 PM
Signed
Title: Re: UK dialysis users not aware might want to read and sign this! Cuts being made!
Post by: Sugarlump on November 19, 2014, 09:44:07 AM
I have just read the article and cannot imagine what this will do to our current system? Will hospitals just stop providing dialysis? And wait for private companies to pop up. I suspect that if it is being done to save money we are in for a bumpy ride and lots of changes. It was kept very quiet, they were supposed to be consulting on this until 31st Dec!!!!
If anyone has any further info please let us know.
It is extremely worrying how they think they can save money on dialysis!

Apparently the CCG is set to take over all UK dialysis from April 2015.....
Title: Re: UK dialysis users not aware might want to read and sign this! Cuts being made!
Post by: lainiepop on November 19, 2014, 11:17:19 PM
http://www.kidney.org.uk/home/news-2/breaking-news-dialysis-to-lose-specialised-commissioning-status/

Saw this link update on Facebook yesterday. Not exactly sure how it will work though xxx
Title: Re: UK dialysis users not aware might want to read and sign this! Cuts being made!
Post by: cassandra on December 13, 2014, 08:52:39 AM
And there I was thinking how difficult it would be to dismantle the NHS. Self-interest always wins, I wonder who is in all those advisory groups.



          :Kit n Stik;
Title: Re: UK dialysis users not aware might want to read and sign this! Cuts being made!
Post by: Sugarlump on December 14, 2014, 03:22:06 AM
Probably people who have shares in or are employed by companies with a vested interest in taking over bits of it!!!
Title: Re: UK dialysis users not aware might want to read and sign this! Cuts being made!
Post by: cassandra on December 14, 2014, 04:40:21 AM
O yes, and 70 of them are sitting in Parliament too. What a democracy.

       

          :puke;
Title: Re: UK dialysis users not aware might want to read and sign this! Cuts being made!
Post by: Charlie B53 on December 14, 2014, 06:58:32 AM

Follow the money.  There is no profit in Government run healthcare.  By shifting to privately owned corporate care services can be restricted until the company shows a profit.  Upper management makes bonuses and underhandedly gives 'contributions' to political parties.

While the consumer prices rise until they can not afford services.

Sounds like this is spreading.

Pure corporaate greed.
Title: Re: UK dialysis users not aware might want to read and sign this! Cuts being made!
Post by: Sugarlump on December 14, 2014, 08:59:36 AM
We need a revolution brothers...vote the greedy Conservative b****** out of power :Kit n Stik;
Title: Re: UK dialysis users not aware might want to read and sign this! Cuts being made!
Post by: Charlie B53 on December 14, 2014, 03:21:20 PM

The general public is too apathetic to bother to get out and vote.

corporate AND Legislature know that, and continue to pass laws enabling massive profit.

Until the public wakes up, and realizes nothing is going to change until EVERYONE gets out and votes,  they shouldn't have any complaints, they allow Corporate, and Legislature to do whatever they want.

I tell everyone this, family, friends, neighbors, co-workers (while I was still working).  Hopefully a few of them take it to heart and start voting, and pass the word on.
Title: Re: UK dialysis users not aware might want to read and sign this! Cuts being made!
Post by: Sugarlump on December 15, 2014, 11:52:21 AM
I think they should teach some politics in schools to get the youngsters to connect with the law making process.
Just some basics, the history of parliament, the different houses and how laws are made, how politics affects our daily life and to listen to talks by all the parties and debate the good and the bad.
Then they might be more likely to vote.
Title: Re: UK dialysis users not aware might want to read and sign this! Cuts being made!
Post by: cassandra on December 15, 2014, 03:16:25 PM
I used to think that too. I'm 'educated' in the Netherlands, and Politics used to be in obligatory in schools. However the turn out in election is poor. Maybe directness like in Switzerland is a solution?
Title: Re: UK dialysis users not aware might want to read and sign this! Cuts being made!
Post by: Sugarlump on December 16, 2014, 04:36:52 AM
How about compulsory voting or take away the vote from anyone who hasn't voted three years in a row!!!
Title: Re: UK dialysis users not aware might want to read and sign this! Cuts being made!
Post by: kristina on December 16, 2014, 03:17:04 PM
I used to think that too. I'm 'educated' in the Netherlands, and Politics used to be in obligatory in schools. However the turn out in election is poor. Maybe directness like in Switzerland is a solution?

... Directness in Switzerland can create new problems by "not seeing the wood for the trees" sometimes ...