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Title: Is there a "too hot" for the liberty cycler to run?
Post by: Sydnee on June 27, 2013, 12:00:30 PM
Last night was the second time Ed's cycler said fluid was too hot. Ed called we are getting a replacement sometime today.

The first time the machine thought the air was too hot. It was 95 out that day and Ed was setting his machine up for a mid day exchange. We left the bag on the sensor to cool the machine down for about half an hour. Then Ed was finally able to do an exchange.

This time Ed was hooking up for the night (machine already set up from mid day exchange) it drained Ed and then told him the fluid was too hot. I touched it, it was hot to the touch. It was only 88 in the house. We put a fan on it. Ed called. 

This is only the beginning of summer the End of July and all of August are the bad months here. We do not have air conditioning.
What can we do to make sure Ed can use his machine? Any tricks of the trade (as it were)
Any advice?   
Title: Re: Is there a "too hot" for the liberty cycler to run?
Post by: Joe on June 27, 2013, 07:27:38 PM
I haven't had that issue with my system, at least not yet. We just went through a period of 5 days with our temps in the mid to high 90s and no A/C in the house. Through all of that, I didn't see any issues with my fluids. Hope changing out cyclers takes care of the problem.
Title: Re: Is there a "too hot" for the liberty cycler to run?
Post by: Sydnee on June 27, 2013, 10:12:23 PM
I'm glad to know you don't have the problem. We also hope the new one doesn't have this problem. We will see.

Ed didn't start with the cycler until late September of last year so we have no idea whether his first cycler had this problem. We are on cycler #3 now. I've heard that some people never have to replace one. :banghead;
Title: Re: Is there a "too hot" for the liberty cycler to run?
Post by: Grumpy-1 on June 28, 2013, 07:15:15 AM
I have never had to replace the cycler because of the heat. I've replaced them about 6 times over a course of 3 years.  Grumpy
Title: Re: Is there a "too hot" for the liberty cycler to run?
Post by: Joe on June 28, 2013, 07:16:26 AM
I'm going on two years with the cycler in August and am on my 3rd machine. Stuff happens, but Baxter has been excellent in working with me on any issues that come up as well as changing out the cycler if a problem can't be resolved.
Title: Re: Is there a "too hot" for the liberty cycler to run?
Post by: tito on June 28, 2013, 04:06:21 PM
I'm not sure how warm the machine heats the fluid, but theoretically if it is going into the body it should be at or near body temperature of 98.6. Surely your house is not that hot! I've only had problems with the machine pausing to warm the solution, never to allow it to cool.

Speaking of heat, it's just a normal summer day in Boston with temps. in the low 80's. My BP is an astounding 77/66. My arms are too weak to type this. Need to drink salty broth.
Title: Re: Is there a "too hot" for the liberty cycler to run?
Post by: Sydnee on June 28, 2013, 10:17:25 PM
NOPE it wasn't THAT machine. The new one is doing it too.
I would not doubt it if someone said the house got up to 100 today. That is a low blood pressure. did you drink?

We have a Liberty cycler. Seems to me the Baxter is built better.
Our plan is to try to get a hold of one of the PD nurses in Denver. She has been a PD nusre with FMC for several year. (She was filling in at Ed's clinic day on Tuesday, very helpful) Maybe she has seen this and knows what to do about it.

It's currently 11:15 pm and 89 in the house. All the fans are going and windows are open. 55 outside.

Any suggestions? :banghead; :banghead;
Title: Re: Is there a "too hot" for the liberty cycler to run?
Post by: tito on July 08, 2013, 10:00:16 AM
Very, very hot in Boston this past week. Had the A/C running in the bedroom. Surprised that the addition of the cycler on the same electric line didn't cause the power to go out!
Title: Re: Is there a "too hot" for the liberty cycler to run?
Post by: Sydnee on July 08, 2013, 11:23:31 AM
Glad you don't have this problem.

Thought I should post what we have come up with. We have found that the heating disk/unit gets too hot on hot days. So we put a dry washcloth on top and the an ice pack on it for maybe 5 minutes. Then it is cool enough that we can place the fluid bag on it if needed we put the ice pack  on the fluid if it heats up again.

Hope this helps others.