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Title: Question for a Doctor
Post by: Sandi on February 14, 2007, 01:20:12 PM
I have been told I have a hyper parathyroid.  Is there any natural product I can take to counteract this?  I should mention that my kidneys no longer function.

I would appreciate any news that you have.

Thanks,

Sandi



EDITED:  Moved post to correct thread - Goofynina/Admin.
Title: Re: Question for a Doctor
Post by: Rerun on February 14, 2007, 08:35:09 PM
:D  Sandi, no doctor will perscribe a "natural" anything.  They don't believe in that. 

I'm on Sinsapar 30mg daily and it seems to be doing the trick.
Title: Re: Question for a Doctor
Post by: Sandi on February 16, 2007, 09:56:08 AM
I know no doctor will prescribe any natural products.  I was asking if there are any natural products available for hyper-parathyroidism.  I prefer to take a natural products rather than a pharmaceutical product.  I really don't want to have surgery....

Sandi
Title: Re: Question for a Doctor
Post by: angieskidney on February 16, 2007, 09:59:05 AM
I know no doctor will prescribe any natural products.  I was asking if there are any natural products available for hyper-parathyroidism.  I prefer to take a natural products rather than a pharmaceutical product.  I really don't want to have surgery....

Sandi
Probably not. It is the kidneys failing that I guess cause the parathyroids to go hyper.. uh .. I don't know how to word this.

If you want to learn more about your parathyroids click these links:

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Early detection of rickets or vitamin D deficiency may prevent secondary hyperparathyroidism.

You could always talk to your pharamcist for ideas.

I did a search.
Read the bottom 1/2 of this site: http://www.alternativemedicinedirect.com/disorders/index.php?Name=Hyperparathyroidism
** But remember you have secondary hyperparathyroidism which means caused by another disease (kidney disease) so always check with your doctor**

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Hyperparathyroidism Definition:
Also Listed As: Parathyroid (Overactive)


There are four parathyroid glands, located behind the two lobes of the thyroid gland. The parathyroid glands produce the hormone that regulates blood levels of calcium and phosphate, minerals necessary for strong bones and teeth. Primary hyperparathyroidism is characterized by an overproduction of parathyroid hormone, which, in turn, results in an elevation of calcium levels in the blood.

Complementary and Alternative Therapies

Nutrition

Ipriflavone is an isoflavone, or estrogen-like compound from plants, found mainly in soy and also available in supplement form. Several scientific studies have investigated the effect of ipriflavone on patients with osteoporosis. Some studies suggest that ipriflavone may stop bone loss and help new bone form. Because hyperparathyroidism may lead to osteoporosis, the question has been raised about the possible use of ipriflavone to treat this cause of bone loss. One study found that ipriflavone helped reduce loss of bone but did not stimulate formation of new bone. Given that this study had only nine people, more research is needed to fully determine the value of using ipriflavone in people with hyperparathyroidism.
A person with primary hyperparathyroidism who also has borderline nutritional status may develop deficiencies in the following substances that are necessary for normal bone formation:

Vitamin C
Vitamin K
Manganese
In these cases, the healthcare provider may recommend that the person take particular nutritional supplements.


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Herbs

A naturopathic doctor or other appropriately trained practitioner may consider the following medicinal herbs to treat or prevent bone abnormalities related to hyperparathyroidism. Before using these herbs, however, it is best to obtain guidance and advice from such a practitioner:

Black cohosh (Cimicifuga racemosa) is reported to have estrogen-like effects and may enhance estrogen's role in the body, such as reducing the breakdown of bone; more research is needed to determine the value of this use.
Ginkgo biloba extract contains substances similar to isoflavone in soy (see Nutrition section), raising the theoretical possibility that this herb may also have some degree of bone protection; studies regarding this potential use have not been conducted to date.
Horsetail (Equisetum arvense) is rich in minerals and has been used in traditional remedies to support normal bone integrity.
Oat straw (Avena sativa) is rich in minerals and has been used in traditional remedies to support normal bone integrity.


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Homeopathy

A qualified homeopath would do a clinical assessment and guide treatment appropriately.

A homeopathic doctor may use one of the following to treat problems related to calcium levels:

Calcarea carbonica (calcium carbonate)
Calcarea phosphorica (calcium phosphate) do NOT take that
To date the use of these substances for hyperparathyroidism has not been examined in scientific studies.

Title: Re: Question for a Doctor
Post by: glitter on February 16, 2007, 10:56:20 AM
my husband has no kidneys and he was told that anything 'natural' that would be good for a healthy person-was absolutely toxic for him-he had to quit taking all vitamins and herbal remedies,he can take the renal vitamins though. be careful what you take may hurt you,I would at least ask the DR. even if he won't condone it-he may say-yes it could kill you-or not it wont kill you.


Title: Re: Question for a Doctor
Post by: angieskidney on February 16, 2007, 11:58:27 AM
Yeah I was told certian ones are deadly to us because a lot of those need healthy kidneys to excrete them.
Title: Re: Question for a Doctor
Post by: Panda_9 on February 19, 2007, 12:45:47 AM
Absolutely check with your doctor before taking anything "natural". Angie and glitter are right, alot of the natural stuff is toxic to people with renal failure, and even people who have had a transplant. One to definitely avoid if you are transplanted is echinacea. It builds up the immune system, and that is something you do not want!
Honestly you are better off sticking to what the doctors prescribe, as some natural remedies are alot more toxic than modern medicines. Kidney failure is something that cannot be treated naturally.