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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: General Discussion => Topic started by: babycake on April 08, 2011, 09:12:39 PM
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not sure if anyone has ever noticed this or has experienced this
i have had problems with my hearing for a number of yrs
and i finally got my 2nd hearing aid and boy that blows my mind
i was sitting in the ear doc office waiting on my ride and my daughter text me
and i heard that so loud geeze did anyone else hear that........LOL
any how i have a book called chinese healing secerts
where it states that if you have issue with your kidneys
you will most likey have issue with your hearing
that i found very much interesting
Edited: Moved to proper section - okarol/admin
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Huh, that's not one I've heard or seen mentioned. I don't find it very surprising, though - after all, the kidneys control so much, when they screw up, it's a domino effect to things you wouldn't consider at all. If my neuropathy can make me throw up on a regular basis, there's no reason to suppose nerve damage couldn't effect my hearing.
Of course, it could just be the crappy headphones they provide for the tv's at the Dialysis center.... ;D
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A friend of mine - a long term CKD patient - has lost hearing in one ear, and was told it's related to her kidney disease.
I found this online:
Impaired kidney function linked to hearing loss
by Jyoti Pal - October 3, 2010
Hitherto an impaired kidney function signaled an impending risk for stroke or heart disease. But according to the findings of a new study, older adults with sluggish kidneys may require a screening for hearing loss too.
The study, published in the American Journal of Kidney Disease, reveals that older individuals suffering from moderate chronic kidney disease (CKD) are more likely to suffer from hearing problems vis-ŕ-vis healthy counterparts.
Details of the study
For the study, researchers from the Universities of Sydney, Melbourne and Macquarie assessed medical records of 2,564 people, aged 50 and above.
Nearly 513 participants were diagnosed for moderate CKD.
The problem of hearing loss was predominantly higher among patients with CKD, the researchers found.
Around 54.4 percent of the patients with CKD reported suffering from some degree of hearing loss, as against 28.3 percent patients with no kidney problems, researchers revealed.
Moreover, severe hearing loss condition was found to affect 30 percent of the CKD patients as against 10 percent of patients with healthy kidneys.
"Hearing loss is commonly linked to syndromal kidney disease. However, this study suggests a strong tie to CKD in general," Professor David Harris, study’s co-author from Sydney Medical School in Australia, said.
What causes the link-up
"The link can be explained by structural and functional similarities between tissues in the inner ear and in the kidney," Harris explained.
"Additionally, toxins that accumulate in kidney failure can damage nerves, including those in the inner ear. Another reason for this connection is that kidney disease and hearing loss share common risk factors, including diabetes, high blood pressure and advanced age," he added.
Moreover, some treatments for kidney function can affect hearing, researchers noted.
"Some medications used to treat kidney issues include information on how much they contribute to hearing loss," Dr. Robert Hopkin, researcher of genetic disorders at Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center, said. "People need to pay attention to that."
"These findings could lead to a modification of the usual care of people with CKD," Dr. Kerry Willis, Senior Vice President of Scientific Activities at the National Kidney Foundation, averred.
"If you have kidney disease, you should consult your doctor about testing for hearing," Harris recommended. "It's a simple test, but will help you to take special care if you do have a hearing impairment."
"Earlier clinical hearing assessments and fitting of hearing aids in CKD patients can improve quality of life and lead to better management of underlying conditions which could, in turn, potentially preserve hearing function," he added.
http://www.themedguru.com/20101003/newsfeature/impaired-kidney-function-linked-hearing-loss-86140697.html
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Yes!...
Mum's hearing's dreadful since CKD... On the plus side, she doesn't hear me swear so often!!!!.... :rofl;
Love to all...
Darth...
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Thats very interesting because I've been struggling to hear quietly spoken people on the phone lately and when in a noisy environment...
Another bit of me failing to work properly !! If I were a car, I'd have been took to the scrapyard by now! ;D ;D ;D
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I have to wear a hearing aid except for 1 to 1 conversations.
I had a hearing loss before CKD. Now I have noticed that my hearing has deteriorated somewhat since starting dialysis. Or maybe it's because I'm a year older...
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When I reached 39 I started deducting a year each year rather than adding them on may soon be 21 again ;D
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I have also noticed that my hearing deteriorated a little, but I am not in any trouble with it yet.
But I have certainly have noticed that my eye-sight has deteriorated very badly.
Of course, this might be age-related, or partly age-related,
or it might be entirely due to my pre-Dialysis kidneys functioning only 10-12%.
If I am lucky to re-gain some of my kidney-function it will be interesting to see if my eye-sight improves,
because when my kidneys first failed in 1971 I needed glasses straight away as a result
and my eye-sight only recovered fully, as soon as my kidneys started to function a little better again.
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My eyesight has also deteriorated the last 7 years for me, particularly in dim light and being able to read small print (esp in the computer)...
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My eyesight has also deteriorated the last 7 years
EVERYONE who's over 50 starts to lose ahe ability for their eyesight to accommodate. Small muscles in your eye automatically adjust the shape of a structure called the lens and that allows you to focus anywhere from infinity to ten inches or less. With age, the lens becomes less flexible and you gradually lose your ability to focus. This is called presbyopia. The nearest point at which you can focus gradually moves further out, and when it gets so far away that you can't read or even look at things at arms length, you need corrective lenses.
Sugarlump says she's near to 21 when she subtracts a year from 39. We can now confirm Sugar's true age as 50 + 7 = 57, which is 21 in her subtracting from 39 age method. :rofl;
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Stoday that wasn't very kind!!! and I haven't made 21 yet knock off another say 12 years and you might be about right. Honest!
Listen if you saw my picture you'd know I was a lot closer to to 39 than 49!!!!!
Might have to post my pic to disprove your theory now :'( :'( :'(
And anyway they say you're as young as the man you feel, so last night I was only about 39.., >:D
Oh **** someone rescue me again ,,,help!
:sos; :sos; :sos;
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The good news just keep coming, doesn't it?
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All downhill from here :clap; :clap; :clap;
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Reading all this I have been wondering
if the eyesight improves after a transplant
in spite of one’s age?
Thanks from Kristina.
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No.
And they tell you not to get eyes tested in first 6 months either. Some of drugs, inparticular the "nice" steroids can affect eyesight too.
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Thanks for the information, Sugarlump,
keeps me on my toes...
Kristina.
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I'm a mine of useless information and occasionally some useful ::)
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I am entirely deaf in my left ear, can never remember hearing out of it, even though that was not confirmed until I was in the third grade. I have since lost about half of my hearing in my right ear...
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Stoday that wasn't very kind!!!
You are 100% right Sugar. A gentleman would never guess a lady's age.
I haven't made 21 yet knock off another say 12 years and you might be about right. Honest!
I believe you. The correct theory age is 40. I'd used 50 to be provoative.
I'll give you a hug to make you feel better :grouphug;
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Thank you I accept gratefully :cuddle;
Not having the best of days today
Think I shall get drunk ! :'(
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My kidney disease and my bad hearing are directly related. I was born with a genetic mutation/defect called "Branchio-Oto-Renal" Syndrome. Your kidneys and your ears are all made from the same embryonic tissue, so it is not surprising that CKD patients can also have hearing problems. I was also born with a dislocated hip and that has also been associated with ear problems.
I am entirely deaf in my left ear, can never remember hearing out of it, even though that was not confirmed until I was in the third grade. I have since lost about half of my hearing in my right ear. I have had access to hearing aids since I was in 8th grade, but have resisted them until about four years ago when I finally figured out I was being perceived as "rude" in various social/work places because I didn't realize people where talking to me and of course, I wasn't answering them, lol. I now realize I have done this to people my entire adult life... Sad.
Mind you, through all of this I have managed to earn graduate degrees in Music from one of the top rated music schools in the United States (I practiced a lot!). I am a professional saxophonist and teach full-time as a living. I cannot play wind instruments and wear the hearing aid, it distorts the sound too much. I do have to wear the aid while teaching so I can hear the student's voice and every other situation. I worry daily that my hearing will end my career...
I only found out about BOR Syndrome a few years ago through my daughter's audiologist. The audiologist did a thorough history and asked if I had been diagnosed. Uhh, no... Then I researched it, got in touch with a hospital in Utah that is doing the research and they confirmed the diagnosis for both myself and my daughter through blood work. My own Nephrologist had never heard of it and every Neph who was on my case with my transplant last week commented that they had never heard of it either. Now they have :thx;
I am so sorry to read your story, Sax-O-Trix, and the fact that you were born with a genetic mutation/defect called “Branchi-Oto-Renal” Syndrome
and a dislocated hip.
You must have been working very hard to earn your graduate degrees in Music and I take my hat off to you !
I do hope you can continue to enjoy your music and teaching students
for a very long time and I wish you all the best,
Kristina.
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Kristina, no need to be sorry... We all have face challanges. In spite of the hearing/kidney/hip problems, I consider myself blessed with a decent life.
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Hello, Sax-O-Trix,
you seem to have a well-balanced view of your life,
long may it continue.
Best wishes from Kristina. :waving;
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My kidney disease and my bad hearing are directly related. I was born with a genetic mutation/defect called "Branchio-Oto-Renal" Syndrome. Your kidneys and your ears are all made from the same embryonic tissue, so it is not surprising that CKD patients can also have hearing problems. I was also born with a dislocated hip and that has also been associated with ear problems.
I am entirely deaf in my left ear, can never remember hearing out of it, even though that was not confirmed until I was in the third grade. I have since lost about half of my hearing in my right ear. I have had access to hearing aids since I was in 8th grade, but have resisted them until about four years ago when I finally figured out I was being perceived as "rude" in various social/work places because I didn't realize people where talking to me and of course, I wasn't answering them, lol. I now realize I have done this to people my entire adult life... Sad.
Mind you, through all of this I have managed to earn graduate degrees in Music from one of the top rated music schools in the United States (I practiced a lot!). I am a professional saxophonist and teach full-time as a living. I cannot play wind instruments and wear the hearing aid, it distorts the sound too much. I do have to wear the aid while teaching so I can hear the student's voice and every other situation. I worry daily that my hearing will end my career...
I only found out about BOR Syndrome a few years ago through my daughter's audiologist. The audiologist did a thorough history and asked if I had been diagnosed. Uhh, no... Then I researched it, got in touch with a hospital in Utah that is doing the research and they confirmed the diagnosis for both myself and my daughter through blood work. My own Nephrologist had never heard of it and every Neph who was on my case with my transplant last week commented that they had never heard of it either. Now they have :thx;
your just one of the rare people to have this birthdefect
it was like with me and my son i had no clue i had a birthdefect called lawerence moon beild syndrome
untill i was going in to have my heart valve replacement and when the surgeon mention the name (SAY WHAT)
sense there were studies done on my son when he was little as where they had sent his studies to london you figure they should had said something but yet they didnt....(and yea im just one of those rare people to share the same birthdefect with my son but not my daughter who is the oldest
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My brother and I both have ESRD and severe hearing loss. The kidneys started to worsen in our 30's, the hearing got bad in our early 40's and the kidneys failed in out mid 40's. We are both nearly 50 now, both on PD and both wearing hearing aids we'd be LOST without.
My hearing loss has caused me to loose my job (teaching), but my brother's job ended when he was too sick to work due to kidney failure. He was in sales. We've been told we have Alport's Syndrome, but have never had the genetic testing done and there is no history of it in the family. This hearing loss/kidney correlation is very interesting to me!
Things that make you go hmmmmmm.
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Alport's Syndrome is hereditary nephritis and has hearing loss.
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I'm living proof of that, yes. Confirmed biopsy of Alport Syndrome, and I can "hear" my ears going bad day by day. I treasure what I hear now and hope that I can stretch out the remaining usage for some time. I couldn't imagine not being able to hear my wife or my kid.
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Have any of you with hearing loss taken sign language classes?
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I have picked up some from my kid. He's on the autism spectrum and he was taught some signs, so we could communicate when he was younger. But nothing fluent, by any means.The ENT doc said I might be a candidate for a cochlear implant down the line, but I'm not looking forward to having a machine drilled into my head.
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I've had kidney disease all my life as well as a gradual reduction in my hearing. I've worn hearing aids for I'd guess about 20 years now. All I can say is that the technology has grown leaps and bound when hearing aids have gone digital. The pair I wear now are fully in the ear without background noise reduction. Anyone who has worn hearing aids knows the biggest pain is the amplification of background noise. Say an air conditioner in the background or at a place with loud music on while trying to carry on a conversation. The aids I have now don't have/need that. They are the most naturally sounding hearing aids I've had to date. No one can see them unless looking directly into my ear cannal (not sure why anyone would want to do that anyway). I never even know I'm wearing them (unless of course a battery goes dead). So if you are reluctant to get them or had bad experiences in the past you should give them another go.
Another funny story about acupuncture and hearing loss. I was volunteering at a local Donate Life booth and the booth next to us was a acupuncturist. I asked about using acupuncture to cure hearing loss. The acupuncturist was telling me about the connection between kidneys and hearing and something about places he places the needles to improve the energy or something or another between the two. Then I explained "well my original kidneys were removed and a replacement put in but not in the same location." He also said that they place the needles in the ears. I told him that I've had skin cancer on my right ears and the skin was removes and replaces with skin that was taken from behind my ear. I then asked again if acupuncture will help my hearing loss. He said "no" and walked away.
Bill
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I'm starting to have some hearing loss. I went to the ENT doc when my daughter was getting treated because I though I just had wax. It happened all of a sudden, and no one could tell me the cause. It least I know the reason.