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Title: finally starting 3x week
Post by: texasstyle on September 20, 2010, 06:07:40 AM
yeah!!!! I can't believe he's doing it lol. Took a crisis, but here we are. My husband is going 3x a week instead of 2x. I can only imagine the difference. I so shoping to see some energy back in him. Finally, ridding those poisons more than 2x a week. I remember when he first started D going through a period where he felt just so wonderful for quite a while. Maybe this might be the same way. I am so happy. Sad it took a crisis to get here, but happy we're finally on track! thanks for all the support guys
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: Dianejt on September 20, 2010, 06:13:25 AM
 :cheer:
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: RichardMEL on September 20, 2010, 06:19:13 AM
 :bandance; :bandance; :bandance; :bandance;

WONDERFUL NEWS!!!

I know he doesn't want to do it - none of us do - but this is what he needs so badly. Very glad to hear this news!!!!

 :yahoo; :yahoo; :yahoo; :yahoo; :yahoo; :clap; :clap; :clap; :clap; :clap;
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: galvo on September 20, 2010, 06:55:18 AM
Good!
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: KICKSTART on September 20, 2010, 07:58:09 AM
Glad to hear it, if you feel he needs it. It will probably take him a while to see any benefit though . I know how i feel after having to come off early ..doesnt take much to make you feel crap ! So make him stick it out , because he might say he is no different, so its not worth doing at first .  :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: texasstyle on September 20, 2010, 08:02:19 AM
Good indeed. He was getting some edema in legs/feet more than normal yeasterday and they still look a little swollen after D this morning but..insyead of waiting until friday he'll go again Wed. which should start to be a big help. Got out of hosp. last thursday & dialaized friday. His labs from friday show Potassium 5.8 ( a little high) and PTH 145 (low). I guess it's gonna take a bit to figure out how the renal diet is going to play into this. I know how important it is but I guess it's a matter of "getting the hang of it". For example, I was looking inline for a nice renal friendly lunch to make today. Thy seem use suggest whole wheat breads but I thought you wanted to use white bread on renal diet. SOOO confusing!! It takes time but time is of the essence too.
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: texasstyle on September 20, 2010, 08:03:46 AM
He's been needing for over a year KS. But you know men lol....
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: Poppylicious on September 20, 2010, 08:09:24 AM
Fabulous!  I hope you see some improvement soon!

 ;D
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: RichardMEL on September 20, 2010, 05:40:28 PM
He's been needing for over a year KS. But you know men lol....

hey not all of us are like that.

I've been needing something else though....  >:D :rofl;

re white bread vs. wholegrain - yeah apparently white has slightly LESS potassium(I think it is) than the wholemeal or grain breads. For once dietry advice to have white bread. I nearly peed my pants when I read that  :rofl;
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: Jean on September 22, 2010, 12:03:57 AM
 :bandance;  :bandance;  :bandance; Finally!!!!!!
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: RichardMEL on September 22, 2010, 01:51:51 AM
OK so it's Wednesday in Texas... so he should be doing his session soon. I hope he sticks to the plan and doesn't have to be dragged kicking and screaming. Yes, it sucks, but this will be SO GOOD for him.

let us know how it goes, TS!!!
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: texasstyle on September 22, 2010, 04:30:00 AM
He went in! I am anxious to see how he does this time because he is so full of fluid in feet/ankles/legs/ They seem to getting bigger each day. If he swells a little bit dialysis usually pulls that right off but last Monday it didn't appear too. I forgot to ask how much they took off. I will be sure to today.
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: RichardMEL on September 22, 2010, 06:05:21 AM
Is he following ANY kind of fluid restriction? I would have thought he SHOULD be after what happened when he was near death with so much fluid on his lungs and heart....

the swelling in the feet and ankles isn't a good sign....

Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: Desert Dancer on September 22, 2010, 06:54:44 AM
I'm sorry you had to go through this horrendous wake-up call, but I'm really glad to hear he's heeding it at last. I hope things continue to improve for you both.
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: KICKSTART on September 22, 2010, 07:09:34 AM


I've been needing something else though....  >:D :rofl;


Yes RM a COLD shower !!!!!! :rofl;

Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: RichardMEL on September 22, 2010, 07:13:02 AM
awww must I? it's winter... I hate being cold :(

(well yes it's technially spring now, but it's still COLD here!!!)

 :rofl; :rofl; :rofl;
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: billybags on September 22, 2010, 07:55:53 AM
Hope all goes well.
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: paris on September 22, 2010, 09:12:53 AM
I hope he has seen the light and this is the beginning of a new way of dealing with his disease.  (for your sake!)   Let  us know how he does with the extra day.    We'll all be waiting for news. 
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: texasstyle on September 22, 2010, 09:59:28 AM
They took off liters since Monday he said. I don't know if that means INCLUDING, or SINCE. He drinks from a smaller glass but he has to get it together and find out exactly how much his fluid intake is going to be. After dialysis he made a grill cheese and tomato sandwhich. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: texasstyle on September 22, 2010, 10:00:17 AM
What a goof I am lol. That's 7 liters.
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: lillinny on September 22, 2010, 03:50:31 PM
Hope he's feeling better and not like he's been hit by a car!  When mine was going to the center 3x a week and they took so much out, he was pretty much done for the day.  On the lighter side, my husband will take a stand on certain foods that HE CANNOT HAVE and then goes and eats a whole slew of other foods that HE IS NOT SUPPOSE TO HAVE!   :rofl;  Could it have something to do with what HE WANTS TO HAVE? 

I've wondered how much better his labs would be if he followed a renal diet. . . at least 60%.  Any ideas?
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: texasstyle on September 22, 2010, 05:46:27 PM
I can only imagine that the renal does everythig to benefit your health. there is a guy at the center who is so strict he has had 1/2 hour taken off each session. he loves living life for sure and what a great inspiration
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: RichardMEL on September 22, 2010, 06:26:15 PM
SEVEN LITRES?!!?!!

A cheese and tomato sandwich??? LOL!!! Potassium AND Phos in the same package. OMG. That's kind of scary.

Seven litres over in 2 days.. that's some seriously bad juju there.  :urcrazy; The recommended change in weight between treatments is 2kg/2L. Does he still pee? If he doesn't he really shouldn't be drinking more than a litre or less/day. If he's still outputting urine, than a bit more is OK.

Maybe he should do what I do - get some scales at home and weigh say 3 times/day to see how he is doing. First of course he needs to make sure to note how different they are to the unit scales - I do this by taking my end weight after dialysis. Going straight home(not eating or drinking anything of course) then weighing on my home scale, then noting the difference. Then, I weigh several times between then and the next treatment to keep track of what I've put on (even if you don't "calibrate" home scales against the unit, keeping track of change from your post-D weight gives you a fair idea of how much you've put on - and between D treatments the vast majority of weight change will be fluid (I mean yes if you weigh right after a meal you'll have that "solid" weight too, but over time the general change is fluid).

Taking off so much fluid may be also related still to all that fluid he had the other week when he was in hospital, but that also suggests that he's been ignoring his fluid restrictions for too long.

Good luck!
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: Bruno on September 23, 2010, 03:06:25 AM
Hello Texas Lady
Good for you in trying more hours. My limited experience (4x5 hour sessions weekly) is that longer weekly hours can be beneficial.
Bruno
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: okarol on September 23, 2010, 08:19:24 AM
 :cheer: I hope he feels better with the extra day!
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: texasstyle on September 23, 2010, 06:30:44 PM
well, I don't think the 3 days is going very well. He is wearing his thigh high elastic socks, the kind for edema, tonight. he is getting a little better on fluid intake butthe diet is out the window. I'm also keeping in mind he's just had a pericardial window put in his heart 2 weeks ago. Will see the heart Dr. Tues. I have to wonder if this fluid is more the CHF or the kidneys. I'm getting pretty confused here. I'm curious to see how his labs went for the first full 3 day week. I'm not even on it but I HATE DIALYSIS! LOL. I certainly feel for everyone.
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: boswife on September 23, 2010, 07:32:50 PM
im with ya texas!!!  I hate it too..lol   I just want clarity and knowing what is exactly right and how much to eat for heart, kidney, pancreas, liver, .............  i just WANT TO KNOW whats exactly right and KNOW it, trust it, and follow through...  I just want to do whats right :-(  and it's hard to REALLY know for sure, and then accomplishe that..
ewe,,, guess im getting my vent on..lol
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: RichardMEL on September 23, 2010, 10:40:05 PM
they may not do new labs straight away so you may not know. Anyway, and I hate to write this, but are you relying on Mike to tell you what his labs are? If he doesn't tell the unit half the stuff that's going on with him, what about you? (Again, sorry I feel quite horrid writing that thought.. I don't mean to be rude.. but the thought is there).

re the diet out the window.. he can't slacken off on stuff like potassium just because he's going another day a week. He really needs to stick to it if he doesn't want a repeat of a couple of weeks ago....
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: KICKSTART on September 24, 2010, 03:00:18 AM
Ban him from the kitchen !  :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: texasstyle on September 24, 2010, 01:49:23 PM
Today's breakfast was eggs, in a white flour totilla wrap with pepper. That's pretty "safe" isn't it? If it is I think we're making progress. He also has a magazine he gets now about nutrition and has been interested in reading things about high blood pressure etc. I'm hoping something sparks and he takes a vested interested in his health. Glad the magazine can be a source of helpful, educational information. Fluid intake looks as if it's being motoried today too. Hmm...... Am I imagining this? lol  Sure is sleeping all day though. Once the Philles baseball comes on though...... lol
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: RichardMEL on September 24, 2010, 06:19:04 PM
Good source of protein there with the eggs - which he needs with hemo.

Is the magazine related to renal nutrition? Remember that a general publication may not be appropriate for dialysis patients on the renal diet. It IS a good sign though. Really happy to hear. Hoping as he settles into the 3x routine that his overall energy and health will improve and he won't need to sleep all day.

Thanks for the update :)

 :2thumbsup; :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: texasstyle on September 26, 2010, 03:59:35 AM
no, it's not a renal amagzine but does have a lot of information about many different health issues. I'm glad to see he's reading it. He's even brought up a couple up topic's he learned about high BP. I hoping he'll start to see health matters as not only educational, but interesting which to me, to they are. One step at a time here.....lol
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: KICKSTART on September 26, 2010, 06:26:55 AM
Eggs get the  :2thumbsup; ???? We are told to limit them to 2 a week ! Strange all got the same illness , all get told to do different things !
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: Stoday on September 26, 2010, 07:06:12 AM
American eggs are different, Kicks. They have white shells, whereas ours are brown.   :laugh:

I read somewhere that the yolks were OK but not the whites.

Ya have to take the dietician's suggestions with a pinch of salt  :rofl;
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: Zach on September 26, 2010, 09:47:46 AM
American eggs are different, Kicks. They have white shells, whereas ours are brown.   :laugh:

I read somewhere that the yolks were OK but not the whites.

Ya have to take the dietician's suggestions with a pinch of salt  :rofl;

Actually, in the States, we have both white and brown shelled eggs.

Also, it's the whites of the eggs, not the yolks, that's best for us.
The whites are one of the best forms of protein and they are low in phosphorus.
But they do contain potassium, so moderation is again in order--and remember the binders.

 8)

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/
Large Egg, whole, cooked, fried
Protein--6 grams
Phosphorus -- 96 mg
Potassium -- 68 mg

Large Egg, white, raw, fresh
Protein--3.5 grams
Phosphorus -- 5 mg
Potassium -- 54
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: ChickenLittle56 on September 26, 2010, 05:30:48 PM
Texas, I think you better off going with corn tortilla wrap. The flour has more bad stuff in it than the corn (baking powder, shortening or lard and flour made form wheat). That's what my mom puts in when she makes flour tortillas from scratch(mmmm.....delicious).

Stody, the breed of the chicken determines the color of the shell.
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: RichardMEL on September 27, 2010, 12:51:00 AM
Another issue with eggs is they probably don't want you to have too much because of cholesterol concerns....

Like anything it seems moderation is the key - but I agree that an egg is a great source of protein, and I often get something with egg in it for a boost.
Title: Re: finally starting 3x week
Post by: KICKSTART on September 27, 2010, 05:37:27 AM
Zach ..i think Stoday was being sarcastic .. :rofl;