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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: Transplant Discussion => Topic started by: okarol on April 10, 2010, 01:01:32 PM
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* Average paid by Kidney Buyer: $150,000
* Average paid to Seller of Kidney: $5,000
* Kidney broker in the Philippines: $1,000 to $1,500
* Kidney buyer in Israel: $125,000 to $135,000
* Kidney buyer in Moldova: $100,000 to $250,000
* Kidney buyer in Singapore: $300,000
* Kidney buyer in United States: $30,000
* Kidney buyers in China: $87,000
* Kidney buyers in Saudi Arabia: $16,000
* Kidney seller in Egypt: $2,000
* Kidney seller in Moldova: $2,500 to $3,000
* Kidney seller in the Philippines: $2,000 to $10,000
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This was talked about at the transplant seminar I went to today from NKF.
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i wonder if any journalist can do some under-cover reporting to find out the breakdown for all the middle-men and agents, hospitals, etc. in this black marketplace
* Average paid by Kidney Buyer: $150,000
* Average paid to Seller of Kidney: $5,000
^that is a pretty big pie with the desperate poverty-stricken "seller" getting the smallest piece.
These numbers make me wish more countries can learn/adapt from the the Iranian model.
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From the seminar I went to Saturday, the Iranian system is not the best either with most of the organs going to upper class and that it is more forced upon to donate than an individual decision which some citizens do not care for according to the presenter. There is no perfect answer though yet.
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Iran excludes all patients over 55 years old from being eligible for a transplant, which really changes the whole wait list.
More info here: http://www.nature.com/nrneph/journal/v2/n12/full/ncpneph0364.html
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That is quite a disparity between what a buyer pays and what a seller receives.
Those sellers get ripped off.
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Iran excludes all patients over 55 years old from being eligible for a transplant, which really changes the whole wait list.
More info here: http://www.nature.com/nrneph/journal/v2/n12/full/ncpneph0364.html
The paper said that the age limit was for the beginning and was lifted later. So, it should not have age limit now. Since there are almost no waiting time, why is "most of the organs going to upper class"? Is it because the poor cannot afford the transplant? If the "donation" is forced, who decides who will donate?
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There was an excellent BBC documentary (This World) on Iranian kidney sales. I watched it online when it came out in Oct. 2006, but it does not seem to be available (legally) any more. You can read the transcript still, I think. It does not make organ sales seem like a great idea at all - just desperate people who feel they have no choice ring the hospital, and they are treated like garbage by the man who answers the phone. It is MOST DEFINITELY portrayed as callous "sale of kidneys" in this programme. No one over 34 is accepted as a donor, and you are paid based on how in-demand your blood type is. You would have to hear that man's bored and disinterested tone to properly appreciate how distasteful the whole scheme appeared.
I had a long chat with an Iranian surgeon during one of my So-Cal evals. He was all for paid donation but ended up saying something so horrifying to me about it that any doubt I ever had about the wisdom of the practice vanished. Ever since, I have considered going for my PhD on the subject of legalising organ sales, but I doubt I would ever be so lucky as to get a doctor to say these provocative things after giving proper, informed consent.