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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: General Discussion => Topic started by: Brianna! on January 15, 2010, 06:28:15 PM

Title: questions about EMLA cream and fistulas?
Post by: Brianna! on January 15, 2010, 06:28:15 PM
I'm putting this in one thread, so I don't have to make two threads. haha.

Can you "remove" a fistula? When I had my fistula placed, my surgeon said that if the fistula bothers me like 20 years down the road, it can be removed? I thought he was thinking of a graft? So I was just wondering if you can remove a fistula?

Another thing. Does a fistula look better once you stop using it? Like less bumpy and big? Someone on here, said they heard that, and I was wondering if that was true?

About the EMLA cream, I think I might be alergic to it. When I first started using it, it was fine. But now when I take the wrap off, where the cream was, there's red spots. Do you guys think it's the cream? Or is it maybe the wrap that i'm using?

One more thing. When I take off my gauze and tape, I rip off the scab sometimes. It doesn't bleed. But it hurts. Any tips for when taking off the tape?

Yeah. Lots of questions! I know. I just didn't want to make like 3 threads for each of these questions! haha
Title: Re: questions about EMLA cream and fistulas?
Post by: RightSide on January 15, 2010, 08:23:05 PM
The redness (erythema) is not an allergy.  It's an inflammation, a known and fairly common side effect of EMLA cream that reportedly occurs in up to 30% of patients who use it.  I get a little redness myself.  Unless it's giving you significant discomfort, it's probably not worth worrying about.

The tape will come off easier, and the gauze won't stick to the wound, if you soak the entire area in warm water for a few minutes first.

Sorry, I don't have answers for your other questions.



Title: Re: questions about EMLA cream and fistulas?
Post by: YLGuy on January 15, 2010, 08:59:51 PM
I actually just met someone who had their fistula removed. It was a pretty big scar.  I do not know what happens when you stop using it.  I am sure someone here knows.
Title: Re: questions about EMLA cream and fistulas?
Post by: Brianna! on January 15, 2010, 09:20:33 PM
Thanks RightSide! I'm going to try the water thing in a bit, when I take off my gauze.

YLGuy-Where was the scar located? Because I have a pretty big scar on the side of my arm, where they had to move the fistula up to the surface. And do you know why he had his removed?
Title: Re: questions about EMLA cream and fistulas?
Post by: YLGuy on January 15, 2010, 09:29:12 PM
Middle of the forearm.  They made a fistula because her kidneys were failing and they were preparing her for dialysis.  She never went on dialysis.  I do not know how long she had it for or how big it was before they removed it.  The way she talked about it, it was awhile ago.  She told me that her kidneys were failing again. 
Title: Re: questions about EMLA cream and fistulas?
Post by: Brianna! on January 15, 2010, 09:54:07 PM
That sucks, that she got it removed and now she would need it again! I wish I could google that scar to get a picture, but google comes up with some messed up pictures. I was googling "dialysis needles" and a picture of a needle going into an eye came up. Yeah. Not going to do that again. Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: questions about EMLA cream and fistulas?
Post by: petey on January 16, 2010, 03:54:57 AM
My husband Marvin has a fistula that he doesn't use anymore; it clotted off a few months after his transplant.  It was in his left wrist area, and he had used it for about 2 years (clotted off around 2000).  Since that time, the "bumps" are less noticeable, but they're still there.  Really, looking at it, the average person wouldn't take much notice of it at all.  Of course, he and I can still tell exactly where it was.  We asked about reversing it, but his surgeon said it would be too complicated and totally unnecessary.

Note:  When Marvin went back on dialysis three years after his transplant, we asked about repairing that same fistula to use again.  No way to do this.  He had to have a totally new fistula made -- same arm just a few inches up from where the old fistula is.

How long are you leaving the creme on?  Sometimes, if Marvin leaves it on for much over an hour, his arm will get red from it.
Title: Re: questions about EMLA cream and fistulas?
Post by: dwcrawford on January 16, 2010, 08:49:05 AM
Advice for taking off the tape.... slowly (maybe more painful that way but less scary)

Cream?  Had no problems.  I leave it on about 1 1/2 hours  (good point that it might be the wrap).  Seems the SEAL stuff feels better to me and is easier to put on.  Have you considered or tried the spray?  That'd be easier by far and is supposedly more effective.  Problem.  Not readily available
Title: Re: questions about EMLA cream and fistulas?
Post by: monrein on January 17, 2010, 01:53:27 PM
My first fistula (used for 5 years with zero problems, did my own sticks and laddered religiously up and down to prevent aneurysms) clotted off a year or so after my first transplant.  It is completely flat now, but there is of course a scar, about 5 inches long and that is whiter than my normal caucasian pinky flesh colour. 
Title: Re: questions about EMLA cream and fistulas?
Post by: sullidog on January 21, 2010, 04:45:31 PM
Yes fistulas after not used for a while clot off and get smaller. I'm guessing it's the same for a graft but the graft probably doesn't get smaller as it is always one size since it is made man tubing, but I could be wrong about that.
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