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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: General Discussion => Topic started by: kristina on July 04, 2009, 09:45:00 AM
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Does anyone have any experiences with NAET?
I have read it claims to successfully treat allergies,
it also claims to eradicate allergies as a cause for disease
and benefit organs in the body (i.e. kidneys).
Could that be true or is it humbug?
Thanks for your thoughts, Kristina.
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My thought is that snake-oil would be better.
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Hallo, Stoday,
Please tell me, what is snake-oil all about?
Thanks, Kristina.
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Snake oil:
The most common usage of the phrase is as a derogatory term for compounds offered as medicines which implies that they are fake, fraudulent, quackish, or ineffective. The expression is also applied metaphorically to any product with exaggerated marketing, but questionable or unverifiable quality or benefit.
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Thank you, Marc, it was very kind of you to let me know.
Kind regards from Kristina.
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I think the name came about from the days of "The Old West", and as you may have seen from western movies, when the traveling salesman was selling his bottles of a"wonder Drug" from the back of his wagon, some of them were selling "Snake Oil" as a wonder cure, usually it was rotgut whiskey with various "flavorings" added.......
after a few swigs of that stuff, you didn't care whatever the ailment was, i consider NyQuil close to this, it may have some ingredients that may help a cold, but it's main ingredient is 40% alcohol, the same level as any 80 proof whiskey has, a few gulps of that and you just don't care if you have a cold or not......
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Thanks, Marc, let me see if I have got this straight:
It could be that NAET is a loads of old "snake-oil"?
But what if I have an allergy to "snake oil"?
That would be tough on me but good for the snake, I suppose?
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Your welcome and :rofl; . Please understand that I was just giving the definition of snake-oil. In no way did it express my opinion of NAET. Just be careful:
Dr. Stephen Barrett, after an examination of the technique and Nambudripad’s credentials, writes that:
NAET clashes with the concepts of anatomy, physiology, pathology, physics, and allergy accepted by the scientific community. The story of its “discovery” is highly implausible. Its core diagnostic approach – muscle testing for “allergies” – is senseless and is virtually certain to diagnose nonexistent problems. Its recommendations for dietary restrictions based on nonexistent food allergies are likely to place the patient at great risk for nutrient deficiency, and, in the case of children, at risk for social problems and the development of eating disorders. I believe that practitioners who use NAET have such poor judgment that they should not be permitted to remain licensed.[4]
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Hallo, Marc,
thanks very much for your thoughts on this.
I think it is fair to say that when patients are desperate for medical help
they should have as much information and opinions as possible,
in order to make a reasonable judgement on a treatment.
For me, I do not mind what anyone says or comes up with,
the more information the better for me to make my mind up.
So I thank you very much for your frank and honest opinion
and your help to provide this,
it is very much appreciated.
Kind regards and thanks again from Kristina.
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Sorry, Kristina, my response was a bit cryptic. Your request was primarily for experience with NAET and for comment as a secondary. So I made a cryptic comment. Anyway, I think you get the message from others' responses.
In my view there are three groups of medicines. First, the manufactured medicines that have gone through very expensive testing to prove their efficiency and effectiveness. These work for many people; some work for everyone.
Secondly, alternative medicine that's based on natural herbs etc which tradition has shown to be effective. Since these medicines can't be patented, no-one can make enough money out of them to test them in the same way as manufactured medicines. These often work for some people to a greater or lesser extent. Snake oil is in this group.
Thirdly homeopathic medicines which have no active ingredient. These sometimes work for some people by the placebo effect. NAET falls in this group.
I hope this makes up for my being too concise with my original response Kristina.
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Thanks, Stoday, for your latest comment.
I really like the way comments evolve when a question is raised.
As in this case it brought some interesting thoughts to the surface
which makes this complex subject of treatments more clear.
We always wonder whether something will work for us
and by our optimistic and hopeful nature we hope it would,
and it is often very difficult to evaluate what is genuine and what is not.
Many thanks for clarifying your feelings on this.
Kind regards from Kristina.
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Does anyone have any experiences with NAET?
I have read it claims to successfully treat allergies,
it also claims to eradicate allergies as a cause for disease
and benefit organs in the body (i.e. kidneys).
Could that be true or is it humbug?
Thanks for your thoughts, Kristina.
Ah kristina, you do ask some delightful questions. You have an inquisitive mind.
You ask: Has anyone experiences with NAET?
Does it work for any and all things, ! Can't truly answer that, as I haven't tried it on all things.
Yes, there is a truth in it's use. Will it work for all people and all things, no of course not, and I won't expound any further here.
Yet until some things are actually tried, one never will know if things of this nature work or not.
Now as Bagger Vance would say' Let the Magic begin'.
(just Google it)
talker
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Thank you talker for your kind compliments.
... Keeping my "two little fighters" going since 1971, was sometimes a bit of a difficult job.
... I did try out a lot of options over the years, but what really assisted me, was my vegetarian diet.
... With the help of "Mr. Google" I compared many vegetables and fruits whether they are compatible
because of "my" many food allergies with SLE/MCTD and ESRF and chronic proliferative glomerulonephritis,
and then I made a list of it and eliminated what would not be friendly to any of "my" diseases...
Unfortunately that left me with very few options, but sticking to these options has kept me going ...
... This exercise has of course its depressive and isolating moments...
... but my "two little fighters" have served me well as a reward...
Kind regards and best wishes from Kristina.
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Thank you talker for your kind compliments.
... Keeping my "two little fighters" going since 1971, was sometimes a bit of a difficult job.
... I did try out a lot of options over the years, but what really assisted me, was my vegetarian diet.
... With the help of "Mr. Google" I compared many vegetables and fruits whether they are compatible
because of "my" many food allergies with SLE/MCTD and ESRF and chronic proliferative glomerulonephritis,
and then I made a list of it and eliminated what would not be friendly to any of "my" diseases...
Unfortunately that left me with very few options, but sticking to these options has kept me going ...
... This exercise has of course its depressive and isolating moments...
... but my "two little fighters" have served me well as a reward...
Kind regards and best wishes from Kristina.
You are most welcome Kristina..
Like a bible quote goes 'many are called but few are chosen'. I, you, others, glean through life's offerings when faced with unpleasing obstacles.
There are numerous offerings, how and which to choose! Unless one is blessed with 'Perfect' intuition, one goes through the listings one by one,discarding that which does not work.Some never make that effort. As mentioned though, in my post: 'Yet until some things are actually tried, one never will know if things of this nature work or not.'.
You are to be commended for seeking, trying, and discarding through 'trial and error'.
talker
(Sorry, should have included,(Matthew 22:14), as to how my words were intended) Yes, some will say is not the true meaning.