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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: General Discussion => Topic started by: IrishGirl on April 16, 2009, 05:54:55 PM

Title: painful spasms/cramps in fistula arm down in hand
Post by: IrishGirl on April 16, 2009, 05:54:55 PM
Any ideas on what to do for this? Its happened twice, usually when they hit the dry weight....like this morning. This happens later, like tonight. I think the nurses said ice or heat but we can't remember which. There is always a big knot in the area between the thumb and index too..it goes away when the cramp does but its quite severe. Ideas? Asap? I offered to cut off his arm but he wasnt in the mood for that...but he might be later if we can't get rid of it !
Title: Re: painful spasms/cramps in fistula arm down in hand
Post by: Rerun on April 16, 2009, 06:37:36 PM
I've had cramps in my hand before and heat would feel really good. 

                                    :waving;
Title: Re: painful spasms/cramps in fistula arm down in hand
Post by: Ang on April 16, 2009, 06:39:34 PM
sounds  like  to  much  fluid  is  coming  off,have  a  chat  to  your  neph.

good  luck.
Title: Re: painful spasms/cramps in fistula arm down in hand
Post by: Wallyz on April 16, 2009, 07:05:05 PM
You could be experiencing steal syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vascular_access_steal_syndrome), where your fistula is diverting too much blood away from your hand and arm, and you are cramping because of too little circulation.  Heat and squeezing a ball or hand excercizer can help.  Talk to your doctor if it continues.
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In nephrology, vascular access steal syndrome, also known less precisely as steal syndrome, refers to vascular insufficiency resulting from a poorly constructed arteriovenous fistula


Title: Re: painful spasms/cramps in fistula arm down in hand
Post by: jbeany on April 19, 2009, 04:45:04 PM
Heat, and forcing yourself to stretch the cramping muscle.  I'd look into upping the dry weight, too.  Even just 0.2 K or so can make a huge difference in how much you end up cramping.