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Title: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: paul.karen on February 13, 2009, 05:29:20 AM
Ok so the lady with all the kids.
She has mental problems this is clear by watching her.  She is unable to care for 14 children.  Most any family would be unable to do so.  I would quess half of the new crew of (8) children may have disability problems.  Which means mommy will get even more money to support these children.

Now even a functioning RICH family like Brad and Angelina shouldn't have 14 children even though they can afford a private nanny for each.

So do you have Child protective services step in?
How can one mother with no job pay for these kids.
Is this a form of childabuse?

I hate to say this but for US THE TAX payers who will be obligated to take care of these 14 children are better off if the kids were to stay with the mentalmom.
For if CPS does get involved the cost for us to raise her children will quadruple.  About $2000 a month for a foster family to take a child.  And this is for a healthy child.  One with disabilities i have no idea what they pay for that.

I truly would like to see the inside of her home.
This is a sad sad story.  Was this planned over a year ago?  Did she do this to make money, was the doctor in on it.

It is sad that i choose not to have children.  And i pay daily to raise so many other peoples children.
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: Chris on February 13, 2009, 06:08:16 AM
I think that would be a good idea to take the kids away from the mother, that way the womans mother can have her house back. However I think the mom wouldn't allow that even though she is frustrated with the situation the daughter has put her in. If they do take the kids away, sew and super glue her shut first!, then take the kids away. That way there is less of a chance of her having kids, but then put her on some sort of warning system or base for adoption agencies/ mMedicaid, and gov't help.
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: Sluff on February 13, 2009, 06:15:41 AM
Although there is no law against having as many children as you want, this is a morality issue that effects everyone different. I can not imagine having 14 children, but a lot of families were larger back before the "pill" and those children today are for the most part, our middle to older aged adults. They are the generation that helped build Americas infrastructure.  So in my own opinion the jury is still out, however with the economy and it's instability I can not condone burdening our Tax payers to take care of those children, whose parent has no apparent way to provide for these children.
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: peleroja on February 13, 2009, 07:56:35 AM
I'm pretty sure the doctor was in on it.  He's now being investigated not only for the octuplets, but for implanting 4 embryos into a 49 year old woman.  Mentalmom (I like that title) has been accused of attempting to make herself look more like Angelina Jolie.  Pictures of her from time back show she had much thinner lips at that time, so she must have plumped them up.  Angelina says the whole thing "creeps her out."  The whole thing is a scam of major proportions!
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: Chris on February 13, 2009, 08:33:14 AM
Heck, Angelina Jolie creeps me out  :rofl; :rofl; Sure she wasn't used as a model for a fish in Finding Elmo or whatever the fish name was.
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: monrein on February 13, 2009, 08:55:05 AM
Finding Nemo, Tickle Me Elmo. 
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: BigSky on February 13, 2009, 09:20:25 AM
My understanding is 3 of her current children are considered disabled and she collects 1400 a month.

Most likely they are collecting for some type of learning disability and not actual health problems.

I disagree that they let parents with children with learning disabilities collect SSI.  Such stuff is not life threatening and as such it should be up to the parents to raise that child to 18.  Once at 18 and if they are unable to work, let them collect SSI then. 


In any case it would seem to me the fertility clinic acted in a irresponsible matter.  The State should push that since the clinic acted with such disregard that they are liable to pay to raise these children and not the State.
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: Romona on February 13, 2009, 03:22:51 PM
I feel for the Grandmother and the kids.
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: thegrammalady on February 13, 2009, 03:43:11 PM
My understanding is 3 of her current children are considered disabled and she collects 1400 a month.

Most likely they are collecting for some type of learning disability and not actual health problems.



you can't quilify for ssi with just a learning disibality
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: BigSky on February 13, 2009, 04:08:56 PM
you can't quilify for ssi with just a learning disibality

 When I say learning disability I refer to those that are mentally disabled.  Downs syndrome, mental retardation.

It falls under non medical rules.

"If your child’s condition(s) results in “marked and severe functional limitations” for at least 12 continuous months, we will find that your child is disabled."-Social Security Administration
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: Gramapat on February 14, 2009, 02:15:21 PM
One has autism, one has ADHD and one is "showing some characteristics" of autism. 

I didn't know a kid who has ADHD could collect SSI. 
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: Joe Paul on February 14, 2009, 04:56:19 PM
I'd hate to be the one who would decide to take the kids away from their family, I don't think I could do it. I do think the Doctor should be  responsible for helping to pay for childcare, as he should have known better, and, is  in my eyes, a "Father" of sorts. I feel he should be able to continue to work as a Doctor, only to be able to support these children, and get them the best possible care and schooling as his punishment.  Also, if any of the children turn out mentally disabled, I think he should be sued for doing what he did, and if he loses his Doctors license, make him go flip burgers and continue to pay support. I pray the kids will all be healthy, with strong minds and bodies.
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: twirl on February 19, 2009, 02:20:45 PM
who donated the sperm or was it from a bank of stored sperm
maybe the fertility doc should help pay
he knew the mother's circumstances
did you see the photos of her small three bedroom home that is her mom's home not really her home
what mother could work with 14 children---- the day care alone would be too much
the diaphers alone - she will need a bank loan
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: BigSky on February 19, 2009, 03:05:26 PM
The first six kids were from the same donor.  Out of the six, three have disabilities.  Yet the next group of kids is also from the same donor.  Makes one wonder why one would pick the same donor if 50% were having disabilities.   Older men who father children have a higher risk of the children having problems.  I wonder if the good doctor is more than just the doctor? 

It seems weird that someone with six kids, no job, living at home, lives off of the childrens payments and welfare is somehow able to afford to go to a fertility clinic and get implanted with eggs for 8 more?
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: monrein on February 19, 2009, 03:11:19 PM
With multiple births, disabilities often result from low birth weight and prematurity rather than being associated with genetic abnormalities.  It's still a crazy situation on so many levels  that I can't understand what anyone involved was thinking.  The only sure thing is that no one was apparently thinking at all.
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: paris on February 19, 2009, 03:35:49 PM
The news today said they were 10 months behind in their mortgage payments.  What a mess this whole situation is.  Those sweet little kids are caught in the middle of a mess made by adults.   
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: Zach on February 19, 2009, 09:14:05 PM

The news today said they were 10 months behind in their mortgage payments.  What a mess this whole situation is.  Those sweet little kids are caught in the middle of a mess made by adults.   
 

Will this be the second house they walk away from?
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: Wenchie58 on February 20, 2009, 04:10:53 AM
It appears from the latest news reports that this whack job has gotten her wish.  She's a celebrity!  Talk shows buying her story, paparazzi following her and seeing her on the news every day.  That's what she was looking for and as long as people hand her money for being a bit of kilter she will probably do it again.

Hell, I have been off kilter for years and I don't see Dr Phil offerin me any cash!!
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: paul.karen on February 20, 2009, 06:04:54 AM
Im no doctor but this is for you Wenchie  :twocents;...
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: Chris on February 20, 2009, 08:20:36 AM
It appears from the latest news reports that this whack job has gotten her wish.  She's a celebrity!  Talk shows buying her story, paparazzi following her and seeing her on the news every day.  That's what she was looking for and as long as people hand her money for being a bit of kilter she will probably do it again.

Hell, I have been off kilter for years and I don't see Dr Phil offerin me any cash!!

Dr. Phil can't handle you!
Only we can!  :rofl; :rofl; :rofl;
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: paris on February 20, 2009, 10:04:46 AM
She has a website and you can give donations there!  Lord have mercy.  What a mess.
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: Sluff on February 20, 2009, 05:47:17 PM
I just saw tonight that she is looking at a house for over two million dollars. WTF??
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: Wenchie58 on February 20, 2009, 06:58:23 PM



Awwww you guyzzzz   :shy;
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: Wenchie58 on February 21, 2009, 08:32:22 AM
I just saw tonight that she is looking at a house for over two million dollars. WTF??

Yup Sluff...the woman is gonna be RICH!  When do the regular workin folks get a break?  Oh yeah.....there's that stimulus...gonna fix us all!    :rofl;
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: Romona on February 21, 2009, 01:59:22 PM
I am sure going to live high on the hog with my thirteen bucks a week! :bandance;
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: paris on February 21, 2009, 02:06:32 PM
My husband laughed at the $13, but I reminded him it is another co-pay amount.  It all goes back to meds and co-pays!  So, I will take my little bit and put it toward our co-pays instead of using grocery money  :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: Romona on February 21, 2009, 08:16:14 PM
My husband laughed at the $13, but I reminded him it is another co-pay amount. It all goes back to meds and co-pays! So, I will take my little bit and put it toward our co-pays instead of using grocery money :2thumbsup;
Good point. I have added an endrocrinologist to my list of people to see. Now I can pay her!
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: Zach on February 21, 2009, 08:47:31 PM

I am sure going to live high on the hog with my thirteen bucks a week! :bandance;


What thirteen dollars are you talking about?

8)

Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: okarol on February 24, 2009, 11:12:49 AM

Email joke...


Denny's is offering a new breakfast special in honor of the octuplet's mother...
 

8 eggs, no sausage, and the person next to you gets the bill. hahahahaha
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: paul.karen on February 24, 2009, 11:30:40 AM
Oh your bad..................... :rofl; :rofl;
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: BigSteve on February 24, 2009, 03:47:00 PM
I was going to do the same joke ocarol sent until I saw it. Must be going all over the internet. Probably more Octamama jokes to come.
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: twirl on February 24, 2009, 04:02:46 PM
what does she do with all the diaphers
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: okarol on February 24, 2009, 04:13:13 PM
what does she do with all the diaphers

Landfill?
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: Romona on February 24, 2009, 07:09:24 PM

I am sure going to live high on the hog with my thirteen bucks a week! :bandance;


What thirteen dollars are you talking about?

8)

Tax breaks people should see as thirteen dollars less with held.





EDITED: Fixed quote error - Sluff/Admin








Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: jbeany on March 01, 2009, 03:10:14 PM
It's not a tax break if you don't have a job or a paycheck to get it with!
Title: Re: When will they take the kids? This is child abuse?
Post by: Romona on March 03, 2009, 02:39:46 PM
She is going to rent a 4 bedroom house and get food stamps.