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Title: 911 Tribute Truck
Post by: Sluff on December 10, 2008, 08:28:48 PM
Just in case some haven't seen this before. Ang sent this to me via email and wanted to share with IHD.
Title: Re: 911 Tribute Truck
Post by: Sluff on December 10, 2008, 08:29:49 PM
A couple more.
Title: Re: 911 Tribute Truck
Post by: mikey07840 on December 11, 2008, 02:03:16 AM
Thanks Sluff. I am constantly reminded when I visit New York City. Now each time I am downtown, I keep looking up for the towers that aren't there. I always used them as a point of reference for getting around. I knew where I was based on where they were in the horizon. I don't think I will ever get used to them being gone.

People who have never been to the World Trade Center often don't realize how big they were. Each tower floor was about an acre in size. The concourse that connected them at the base also connected all of the WTC buildings, contained a large indoor shopping mall, a subway station and a commuter rail station to New Jersey (PATH).


Title: Re: 911 Tribute Truck
Post by: G-Ma on December 11, 2008, 05:17:28 AM
Thanks Mikey for the visual guide..that was such a very sad day.
Ann    :grouphug;
Title: Re: 911 Tribute Truck
Post by: pelagia on December 11, 2008, 05:42:10 AM
It's still hard to think about this.  I lost a childhood friend and almost lost another one due to these horrendous acts.  My father and his wife, who live in NY, know many who lost family members in the towers.  While it's a wonderful tribute to keep their names alive, I avoid looking at those photos.  They revive the horrors of that day, the memories about the worry for our country and the personal worry for many friends of mine who work in NY (I grew up on LI and went to college in northern NJ).  Our friend who was in one of the smaller Trade Center buildings watched the towers burning and had to walk out of NY to get to safety.  He has terrible heart problems as a young man and we are thankful that he is still with us.  I have never been able to go to the site.  I will go when they finish the memorial. 

My lost friend was a lifeguard in the beach town where I spent my summers as a kid. He was a smart, kind, older brother kind of guy.  He was one of my first bosses when I became a lifeguard.  We had a lifeguard reunion last fall and there is talk of building a memorial for him in the town. 

I can only hope that the memorial in the city will open in 2011 as is now planned.  There have been more than enough delays.
Title: Re: 911 Tribute Truck
Post by: paul.karen on December 11, 2008, 05:51:03 AM
Great trucks and nice memorial.

i am happy to have a few photos of me sitting on the railing at the statue of liberty with the towers directly behind me.
Karen and myself ate at Windows of the world one month before the attacks.  This restaurant was on the top floor.  It is so high up there was a blimp and a few small planes flying Under us whille we were having dinner looking out the windows.

I CAN never forget this event.  Nor the live video streams of Muslims in North Jersey Cheering as the buildings were burning.  This the same neighborhood where Shiek something or other lived.  The blind sheik who if i recall was involved in the first attempt to bring the towers down.

I also hate the fact that movie companies TOOK OUT any shots that had the towers in them??  WTF kind of memory is that.  Pretend they were never there????
Title: Re: 911 Tribute Truck
Post by: Rerun on December 11, 2008, 06:20:17 AM
I agree Paul.  The media won't show the footage on TV because it makes people uncomfortable.  WTF?  Just like Germany trying to say the Holocaust didn't happen.  We need to be reminded or we will forget.  There are kids 8 years old who don't know it happened in the United States.  Probably most 8 year olds.  Yet we see Pearl Harbor again and again.  Which is fine.  I agree with that.  Almost 3,000 people lost their lives in 9/11.  Tell your children.  Unfortunately, it is part of our history.
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Post by: monrein on December 11, 2008, 09:13:28 AM
  Just like Germany trying to say the Holocaust didn't happen.


This is factually incorrect.  Holocaust denial is illegal in both Germany and Austria and education about the horrors of that time are an important part of the school curriculum.  Berlin also has a holocaust memorial.

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,1833619,00.html

Holocaust denial illegal

Germany's parliament passed legislation in 1985, making it a crime to deny the extermination of the Jews. In 1994, the law was tightened. Now, anyone who publicly endorses, denies or plays down the genocide against the Jews faces a maximum penalty of five years in jail and no less than the imposition of a fine.
 
"It affects the agitator who claims the Jews prey on the German people, that they invented the Holocaust for that purpose, that foreigners should all be thrown out and that the discussion should finally be over with," Benz said. "He must be punished because he engages in incitement of the masses, because he slanders the memory of those murdered, because he slanders our fellow citizens."
 
Austria imposes even tougher penalties for such offences.  Historian and Holocaust-denier David Irving, who was recently arrested there, faces up to 20 years in jail.

Title: Re: 911 Tribute Truck
Post by: thegrammalady on December 11, 2008, 12:41:54 PM
i have been to nyc once. i don't see any particular need to ever go back. this might have something to do with the fact that i flew home, through dc the sunday before the 9/11 attacks. i cried for months, i still do, i will never forget.