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Off-Topic => Other Severe Medical Conditions => Topic started by: petey on November 07, 2008, 07:46:20 PM
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Today, we found out that one of Marvin's brothers has pancreatic cancer. It has also spread into his stomach, and right now, the doctors are not sure that surgery is even an option. They are talking about chemo and radiation. It was a sad day for our family.
Please keep us in your prayers.
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:cuddle; That's so sad petey. Sending prayers - hugs too.
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I'm so sorry Petey. I will pray for him and your family. I hate cancer!
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Your family is in my prayers.
Ann
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Sorry to hear petey
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I'm so sorry to recieve this news Petey and Marvin. A person never knows what they will wake up with in the morning. Please know that I will lift you, Marvin and the entire family in prayer, and ask for a miracle tonight for Marvin's brother. :(
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I am sorry to hear about your sad news. Hugs to you and Marvin, and his brother. :grouphug;
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Oh I just hate cancer, it is so sneaky. Cindy is going through another waiting period, too.
She went for a mammogram Wednesday and they are having the Dr. look at it and tell her
whether to come back in for more pictures or not. Please know that Marvin, you, and his brother
are in my prayers. And I ask your prayers for my Cindy.
Love, Mimi
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Petey, I am sorry to hear this news. How is Marvin taking it? I hate being at the point in life where family members keep getting sick. I will keep all of you in my prayers and the doctors so they can find a productive course of action for his brother. Cling to each other. :cuddle;
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so sorry
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Thank you all so much for your kind words and support -- my IHD friends were the first ones I told.
Marvin is taking it okay, I guess. He's decided that he's going to be there for Walt for anything and everything he needs. It seems that cancer has been unusually rampant in Marvin's family. His mother died of bladder cancer in 1993 at the age of 74, and that little tiny woman put up a terrific fight. In the end, she went peacefully at home with all of us right there with her. He has a nephew who survived non-Hodgkins Lymphoma (a miracle this man lived -- he's now 10 years cancer-free). He had a niece who died of ovarian cancer at age 25. His brother (who had a kidney transplant 15 years ago -- and still working!!) developed renal cancer about five years ago and had to have his original kidneys removed (the docs blamed the anti-rejection meds).
Marvin is the baby in the group. He has four brothers and one sister. All of the others were born within six years of each other (that was five children in six years for his mother -- God bless her soul). Then, eight years later, Marvin came along. He was definitely a "surprise baby." His mom was 40 and his dad was 52 when he was born. Marvin's dad died when Marvin was 12, so the older ones helped his mom raise him. Marvin said it was like having four more dads and one extra mom. And, then, Marvin is seven years older than I am, so his brothers and sister are actually old enough to be my parents (Marvin's nieces and nephews are closer to my age). They are a very "tight" family. Four of them (including us) live within 5 miles of where they grew up; the other two live about 15 miles away. We see each other almost daily, and once a month (the last Saturday in the month), we have "family night" where we all get together and eat supper at someone's house (this often turns into 40-50 of us when you add in Marvin's nieces and nephews and great-nieces and great-nephews).
With all that Marvin's been through, he told me last night that he always thought he'd be the first one to go. And then his eyes teared up. I told him he'd probably outlive us all, and then to make him laugh, I added, "But you better make damn sure I am the one to get the spot in the cemetery next to your grandma!" (There's a family joke that the best spot in the cemetery is next to his grandmother's grave - - it has a shade tree over it!!)
Walt has been in the hospital all week very sick. At first, the doctors thought he had hepatitis, then they said yellow jaundice. We had been after him to go to the doctor for some time -- he's lost a lot (like 50 pounds) in the last couple of months, and he just looked awful. After many tests, they told him yesterday that it is pancreatic cancer. They let him come home last night. Walt called Marvin about 10 p.m. and said, "Can we have family night tomorrow night even though it's not the last Sat. in the month?" And Marvin said, "You betcha!!" So, tonight we're all eating supper together, and I'm sure there will be lots of tears and hugs.
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:'( :cuddle; petey, I am so, so sorry. Please tell Marvin that I am going to add Walt (and your entire family) to our church prayer list. I pray God gives all of you strength and peace for journey you are about to go through. Please hug Marvin for me and tell him I'd love for him to be my brother. :grouphug;
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It just doesn't seem at all fair but then life often isn't fair. I'm putting my energy and thoughts towards Walt (and Cindy too, Mimi) and wish all the best for your families. Stay strong for each other. :grouphug;
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Petey, I'll keep your family in my prayers! :cuddle;
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Sorry Petey. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. :grouphug;
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:grouphug; :grouphug; :flower;
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I hae to hear that somebody has cancer. I hate to think of the suffering they have to go through. I'll be thinking of you!! :flower; :grouphug;
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I wish I had a family like that in respects of being close and nearby. I hope you and Marvin have many more visits with his brother. Hope you had a good night with family night.
Chris
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I agree with you Chris...........that is what I miss about living in ND close to my siblings and cousins....those family times I miss...my kids all work so many hours we have trouble getting together a couple times a year......
Petey and Marvin and all your family are in my thoughts and prayers...........it sounds like your family supports each other very well.
Ann
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Petey and Marvin, you are blessed to have such a close family. I have none around me - although God has blessed me with several close friends. Thinking of you all tonight, hope your family dinner is a great time for all. Enjoy each other, we never know what tomorrow brings.
Ephesians 5:15-17
Be very careful, then, how you live - not as unwise but as wise, making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil. Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord's will is.
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Oh Petey, I am very sorry to hear this news. I hope that Marvin and his brother will have much time to spend together in the coming months. :grouphug;
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Petey I am so very sorry to hear this, I'm sendig love and prayers to you, Marvin and Walt and all of your loved ones.
Mimi I am also sendig love and prayers for Cindy.
Cancer is a dreadful thing (I lost my husband to it when he was 52) but it can be beaten and it can be lived with and I hope that both Cindy and Walt can beat it or at worst live comfortably with it. :grouphug;
Please let us know how they both go on.
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Please let both Walt and Cindy know that there is a group of people all over the world who have them in their caring thoughts. :grouphug; I am convinced that family support, as well as personal strength of spirit, goes a long way in dealing with the cancer challenge. It worked for me. As Rose asked, please keep us updated on the progress of both of them.
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For a last-minute, thrown-together meal, last night was wonderful. There was lots of good food, lots of love in that place, and lots of laughs about "old times." One brother couldn't make (prior engagement out-of-town that he couldn't get out of), but the other five were there, and they sat around and told stories from their childhood and teen years. About half of the nieces and nephews were able to come. All total, we had about 30 there.
Walt looked pretty bad -- yellow skin and yellow, yellow eyes. He's lost so much weight that he looks like a scarecrow. He's down to 130 pounds now. He really enjoyed himself, but, by the end of the night, he was pretty tired. I'm worried about his wife. She told me and Marvin's sister that she thought the doctors jumped to a diagnosis too soon; she's not sure he has cancer, she said. I think she's in denial. It was her 25-year-old daughter who died of ovarian cancer about 10 years ago, so I know this must be a double blow to her.
We decided to change the last-Saturday-night-in-the-month-is-family-night thing we've been doing for years. We changed it to every Saturday night will be family night. If you can come, come on. If you have other things going on, catch the next Saturday night. We're going to just bring whatever we had planned to fix for our own little family and have a "covered dish" big family meal. Though we may not ALL be there every Saturday night, there will be some family together. Marvin's nephew now lives in the house where they all grew up, and he's built a building out back. We're going to use that as our "meeting place." I think it's a good idea.
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:cuddle; petey, sounds like everyone is pulling together for Walt. Thanks wonderful. I feel horrible for Walt's wife, this has got to be so hard for her. How great to make it an every Saturday thing for your family. We all will continue to keep your family in our thoughts and prayers. Give Marvin a big hug from me. :grouphug;
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I took pictures at the family supper last night (I'm never without my camera). Here is a picture of Marvin, his sister, and three of his brothers.
(from left to right) -- seated is brother Ron, standing is sister, Marvin (blue Eagles jacket), Walt (red shirt), and brother Buddy.
The oldest brother couldn't be there. Buddy is second oldest, then Walt, then Ron, then sister, then Baby Marvin (in order of birth).
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What a nice photo Petey.
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:thumbup; Great picture petey. Marvin looks so good (did I write that?), how come there are none of you? I hope you can have many more of the Saturday family nights. :cuddle;
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I am sorry about this. Cancer is such a terrible disease and you and your family must be so worried.
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pety, all i can do is give you a big, big hug and apologize for getting your shoulder all wet. :grouphug;
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Hi Petey, my prayers are with you and your family. Walt, I'm sure realizes how blessed he is to have so much family around. Sadly, I, and many others, have had someone close get cancer. Hope you have many Saturday family nights. God Bless
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Great photo, Marvin is lovely (yes I did type that out loud :rofl;)
So glad you are having a get together every week, that's one of the positive things about cancer - it sure makes you realise what/who is important in life.
God bless you all :grouphug;
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Petey, tell Marvin we are all praying for his brother and the family. Life is just so hard sometimes and I hate they are going through this. When my husband's sister died last year, it felt so surreal. There are still moments that we just can't believe she is gone. How can life continue without missing a beat? I will be saying lots of prayers for all of you :cuddle;
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Just checking in to let you and your family know I have not forgotten you today. :grouphug;
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Thanks for sharing the photo Petey.
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So sorry to hear this Petey. Sending all of you love. :grouphug;
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How are you all doing Petey? I'm keeping you all in my caring thoughts. Cindy too.
xxx
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wishing all the best for the road ahead.
keep the weekly saturday night get togethers going for years to come :thumbup;
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hi Petey
I'm routin for Marvin's brother and will keep him and the family in my prayers.....right now.
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Thank you all for the words of support, encouragement, and love. We had "family night" last night again (making it a regular Saturday night thing). There were about 15 of us there (four of the brothers, a couple of wives, a couple of nieces and nephews). We had a good time and enjoyed the time together. There were no tears -- only laughs, jokes, and memories. Everybody just brought what they had planned to eat for their own suppers.
Walt said he wanted to ride to the beach today, so Marvin and I hatched this plan...we're doing treatment this morning, then this afternoon, we're taking Walt and his wife to the beach. There's an adorable Christmas shop that I love to go to, and Walt's wife wants to go there with me (the men will sit on the big porch and rock while we're shopping). Then, we're going to eat seafood. We'll stop by to walk on the beach (if Walt feels up to it), and then we'll come back home. We are all trying hard to spend good minutes with Walt and make sure he enjoys himself. He goes back to the doctor this week to hear the "plan" the doctors have for him (surgery -- ? or chemo/radiation).
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petey, that sounds wonderful. :waving; I know that Walt appreciates everyone and how great that your doing it every Saturday. You guy enjoy your beach trip and when your in that Christmas Shop, think about me for a minute. I love those places. I hope Walt walks on that beach and takes in the peace that the surroundings offer. Bless you and Marvin's hearts. :cuddle;
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Hope it's sunny there today like it is here. Have a great time :cuddle;
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Petey hoe you guys have a GREAT time together today. :grouphug; :grouphug; :grouphug;
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Sounds like a terrific plan for the day. I'll be walking on the treadmill at the gym in a little while but I'm going to pretend I'm walking on the beach with you all. I hope Walt feels up to it. :flower;
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It's lovely that Walt has such caring people around him, I hope you all have a lovely day. :cuddle;
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What a good time we had at the beach! It was a sunny day (but with a cool nip in the air). We talked, talked, talked -- and Walt's wife and I gosspied a little, too (though Walt and Marvin laughed at us). Oh, willieandwinnie, you would have loved -- absolutely loved -- the Christmas shop we went to -- it had trees, trees, trees, and ornaments, ornaments, ornaments everywhere! It really put me in the mood for Christmas. I love that shop and could spend days in there looking at everything. Walt and Marvin sat on the big porch at the shop and rocked (it was in the sun, so they didn't get cold) while we girls were shopping. Then, we went to our favorite seafood restaurant and ate supper. Walt ate the most I've seen him eat in a month! Walt was getting tired, so we passed on the walk on the beach. But, we enjoyed the ride home (more talking and laughing). It was a fun time for all four of us.
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I'm so pleased you had a good day, what wonderful memories you are storing, I hope Walt remains as good as this for a long time.
The Christmas shop sounds just what I need too, I feel less and less 'christmassy' each year - that sounds the place to renew the excitement and anticipation I used to feel when my boys were younger. Now they are grown up and Barry is gone I just don't have the enthusiasm (although I do try).
Bless you all :grouphug;
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Oh petey, I'm so glad you had a wonderful day. Maybe Walt needs more outings like that, you could even do a picnic just to get him out and maybe it was the ocean air that helped his appetite. I would of loved that Christmas shop and you would of had to drag me out of there. :beer1; Here's to many more precious moments with Walt. :cuddle;
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sounds like a fun day! :flower;
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:waving; petey, how did your dinner with Walt go yesterday? :cuddle;
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Walt and his wife didn't make it to the family dinner last night. They've gone to Florida to spend the week with her step-mom (she's like 90 some and helped raised Walt's wife after her real mother died). Most of the rest of the family was at the Saturday Night Dinner though, and we called Walt to make sure they were safe in Florida (they drove!). They plan to come home next Saturday.
Walt went to see the surgeon at Duke this past Thursday. Surgery is scheduled for Dec. 8. The doc said the mass was bordering Walt's intestines, liver, and pancreas. He thinks he can get it with surgery, but said that radiation and chemo would be a necessity after the surgery. He said the surgery will take anywhere from 8 - 10 hours! Walt is really dreading it all, but, in another way, he wants to get it over with.
We still enjoyed the now-every-Saturday-night supper thing. Marvin really, really loves being around all his family.
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I'm sure we will all be remembering Walt, his wife, you, Marvin and all your lovely family in our prayers. I will send up special ones on 8th (and on 7th and 9th to be on safe side as I never understand this time difference!!). It sounds like a massive operation but Walt seems to have the right attitude. God bless him and all of you. :grouphug;
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Petey, I love what you said about the need "to spend good minutes" with Walt. To spend good minutes, each and every one, is so important.
My thoughts are with you and your family. :grouphug;
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I wish him the best of luck for his surgery and I will be thinking of him. Hope all goes well and they can get rid of all of the cancer.
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Tomorrow is the day for Walt's surgery. When he went for his "pre-op" evaluation, tests, and talk on Thursday, the surgeon told him she would remove: his gallbladder, part of his pancreas, part of his intestines, and part of his stomach. The surgery should take between 8 -10 hours! He will have a feeding tube for about three weeks. He should be able to come home from the hospital in 10-14 days but will need home health care for about six weeks after that. They will also make plans to start his chemo/radiation after he comes home.
Marvin and I took Walt and his wife out for a sandwich last night. They're nervous and dreading it all but trying to be mentally prepared for it. I'm trying to help his wife by giving her suggestions as I have been through similar with Marvin (not the cancer, just the sick husband part). There are so many little "tricks" I've learned along the way that make a situation like this easier, and I'm sharing with her all I have learned.
I am worried for Walt, and I'm also worried for his wife. As all caregivers know, this type of experience is also physically, mentally, and emotionally exhausting for us, too. I told Walt's wife that I stand ready to help with wound care (I'm pretty good at that thanks to Marvin) when he gets home. I can also do about anything else she needs help with (except the feeding tube part -- I have no experience with that -- but I am willing to learn). Walt said last night that he would be fine -- there are doctors and nurses to take care of him while he's in the hospital and then a home health nurse when he comes home -- but he's worried about who will take care of his wife. She said that she thought she was pretty tough, and I told her, "Yes, you're just as tough of an old bird as I am. It won't be easy, but if I can do it for Marvin, you can do it for Walt, too!" She said, "Yes, I can!" And, if anybody can handle it, she certainly can. It will just be all new for her.
If you believe in God, please say a prayer for Walt and his wife tomorrow (surgery starts at 7:30 a.m.). If you do not, please send good thoughts of healing and strength their way.
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Petey please know that I am praying, sending good thoughts and positive vibes for healing and strength for Walt and his wife and for the Doctors who will operate, the nurses who will care for him and everyone else involved. I will also have you, Marvin and all Walt's family in my thoughts as it will be a tough time for you all. Please let us know how he goes on, I know it will be very, very tough for Walt and his wife in particular but having you at their side will help them along that rough road to recovery. Tell them the prayers and thoughts of all at IHD are with them as I am sure they will be, this is the best bunch of people I know. Much love to all of you :grouphug;
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All my best thoughts will be with Walt and his family tomorrow. One thing for sure Petey, Walt's wife could not ask for a stronger, more positive mentor in the caregiver category than YOU. :grouphug;
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I'll be saying my prayers for all of you Petey.
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Many prayers and good thoughts for you all. :grouphug;
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Prayers have been sent for Wally and for you all facing this time with him. :bestwishes;
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petey, saying extra prayers today. Please let us know how things go and your an angel to be there for Walt's wife but I didn't expect anything less from you. :cuddle;
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:thumbup; Sending HUGS! :grouphug;
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hugs for everybody :grouphug; and my prayers too :grouphug;
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I just talked to Walt's wife. The surgeon said the surgery went as well as could be expected. She removed all she thought she would have to, and Walt did okay. He's in ICU and should be there for a day or two. That's all the news I have. Thanks so much for the thoughts and prayers.
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Thanks for the update Petey, my positive thoughts and prayers will continue for Walt and all of his family. :grouphug; I hope he heals well and enjoys many more years to come.
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Walt's wife came home from the hospital late last night, as Walt was in ICU and she couldn't stay in the room with him. This morning, Marvin and his sister drove Walt's wife back to the hospital (3-hour drive). Marvin said Walt looked really good. He had an NG tube, a catheter, heart monitor, a feeding tube and several other tubes, but he was able to get up and walk a little way down the hall. He has a morphine pump for the pain. The incision is about 6-8 inches and in the middle of his abdomen. Walt talked some (in between the pushes on the morphine pump), and Marvin was extremely pleased with how well Walt was doing. Walt's wife is staying at the hospital for a few days, so Marvin and his sister came back home late this afternoon. I called Walt's wife a little while ago, and she said he was asleep (again!).
The surgeon told Walt's wife that she removed part of his pancreas (the neck part), his gallbladder, and part of his intestines. She anticipates that he'll be in the hospital for about 10 days. We're thinking that things are going as well as could be expected.
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That must be a huge relief to all of you. :grouphug;
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Hope he gets home i time for Christmas.
Glad the surgery went well.
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Dear Marsha, I am really sorry that Walt and his wife, and all of you, have to go through this. Please send Walt our very best wishes for his health and healing. I know that you can find strength in your love for each other. Having a family like that is wonderful - a real blessing. :cuddle; Linda
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I hope things go as smoothly as possible for him! Keeping your family in my thoughts.
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petey, any update on Walt? We are praying for him and all of you. :grouphug;
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Walt is doing exceptionally well. He's been up and walking around (almost once an hour). The pain is subsiding and he's using less and less of the pain meds. The incision is healing beautifully, and his surgeon said she'd talk about letting him come home next Tuesday! That's going to be so much better for him and his wife. Marvin's working now trying to get a home health agency to come on board. Walt still has the feeding tube, so they'll need help with that. Walt's wife came home for the weekend (left their 19-year-old grandson up there to help Walt), and she plans to go back Sunday. The doc said she'll be getting the "plan" together for his chemo/radiation treatments (he should be able to go to a hospital about 30 minutes from us for that -- so that will be much easier). The surgeon said she's not saying she got it "all," but she thinks she got most of it. That, we take, as good news.
Now for some bad news. Another of Marvin's brothers (he has four brothers all together) has been having some problems lately and has had a series of tests. He got the results back yesterday (Friday). Buddy (who's 2 years older than Walt and 12 years older than Marvin) has liver cancer! They think it may have also spread into his pancreas. The family is in shock! How could this have happened to two brothers within such a short time of each other? What in the world are we going to do?
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You are going to do just what you did for Walt - be supportive and go through this with him. Family is what matters in dealing with challenges.
My caring thoughts and prayers are with you all. :grouphug;
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You are going to do just what you did for Walt - be supportive and go through this with him. Family is what matters in dealing with challenges.
My caring thoughts and prayers are with you all. :grouphug;
Exactly what bajanne said petey, love, support and prayer. :cuddle;
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Damn :banghead;
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I am so sorry to here this. please know I am saying a prayer for your entire family...Boxman
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Oh Marsha, when I started to read your post I was so pleased but what a blow. I can't make it better but please know my caring thoughts and prayers are with you and all of the family. I hope things get better real soon.
Love to all of you xxxx
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It's all very overwhelming right now. I imagine that when it sinks in and we get on the track of trying to get both of these men better (well ? even) it will be easier to bear.
It's funny, but Marvin has always been the baby (the first five kids were born within 7 years of each other -- then eight years later, Marvin came along :oops; ). Marvin has always, always been the true baby -- they even call him "Baby Marvin" to his face (and he's 53 years old and about 250 pounds!) But, with all of these most recent things, Marvin has stepped up and become like the "big brother." He's been there for the others, loaned a shoulder to lean on, helped get some logistical things figured out. All week long, he's been the family "contact" for Walt -- Walt's wife called Marvin, and then he, in turn, had to make calls to the rest of the family. Marvin was the one they called to be there when they told Buddy about his results yesterday. I continue to be amazed at the strength Marvin has -- and I always thought I married him just for those sexy blue, blue eyes!
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Petey, I'm so sorry to hear this latest news about Marvin's other brother. Sending you all my love and prayers. :grouphug;
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no sense to this, none at all :banghead;
for all concerned :grouphug;
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Oh Lord, what a blow. The good thing of all this is your family is so very supportive to each other and for each other. We are praying for all of you.
Ann
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Petey, just keep putting one foot in front of the other, like you have for years. Not easy but somehow the human spirit keeps on going. My husband's sister died of breast cancer and then three months later his other sister was diagnosed with breast cancer. My brother in law has liver failure and Monday my brother is having a liver scan because they think his is also failing. I am now becoming the healthy one in the family! So, put on that smile and stand tall. You may have to be the strong one for Marvin's family. I know it is a very hard role so come here and lean on us. I am sorry this is happening. You are all in my prayers. :cuddle;
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Marvin and I have been busy lately trying to help with both brothers. Walt (had surgery on Dec. 8 -- doc thinks she got it all) has been home since Dec. 16. He has an open wound, and I've been changing the packing and dressing for him (the home health nurse said his insurance would only pay for three visits from her -- WTF? This man has an open wound that will take weeks to heal). Walt's wife was a little bit nervous about it all. Fortunately for Walt, I have lots of experience with open wounds (my Marvin has had too many to count -- I've packed some, we've used the "wound vac" on some). He also has a feeding tube, but his wife is taking care of this part (I have no experience with these things -- thank goodness). Marvin and I go by Walt's house twice a day so I can change his packing/dressing and Marvin can do little "honey-do" chores around the house for Walt's wife (he put up a new porch light a few days ago!). Walt's recovering, but I think he still has a long way to go.
Marvin's other brother, Buddy, has received confirmation from the doctor that it is cancer of the liver and has spread to the pancreas. Both organs are completely consumed, and surgery is not an option. Buddy is in a lot of pain, and he stays in the bed almost all day every day. He's going back to the doctor tomorrow to talk about chemo/radiation (which the doc says will ease some of the pain and may give him an extra month or two of life). Right now, we're not sure that Buddy will try this. I think he's given up. He has gone down hill severely (both physically and emotionally) in the last two weeks. Marvin, oldest brother Jim, and Buddy's daughter are going with him to see the doc in the morning.
It was a difficult Christmas for Marvin's family. We're praying for a miracle with both brothers, but, more than anything else, we're praying that neither will have to suffer.
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That seems very odd that insurance will only cover 3 visits. Seems someone has to fight tooth and nail with the insurance.
Sorry to hear about Buddy also.
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Marsha I wish I could put my arms around you and Marvin. :grouphug; I will hold you all in my thoughts and prayers and above all pray that Buddy does not suffer.
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:grouphug; So much to deal with - sending hugs and prayers your way.
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:grouphug; Oh petey, I am so sorry, All of you will be in our thoughts and prayers. Marsha, you are an angel for all you do. :cuddle;
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I can only send you hugs during this time :grouphug; :grouphug;
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Petey, I am sure that it is difficult to be changing dressings twice a day without any help from home health aides, but I am sure you are doing a much better job for Walt than they would because you care.
We wish the best for you, Marvin and his family. I wish no one ever had to go through this kind of stuff. When no treatment options are left, as much as I hate to say this, be sure Hospice is contacted. They will not let Buddy suffer. However, I truly hope your family gets its miracle. Rolando and I, we believe.
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Alene and Rolando
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We just got back from the mountains. I am so very sorry to hear about Marvin's other brother. I pray you all have the strength needed to continue this fight.
Ann
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petey, if it isn't one thing it's another. life is what happens when you're busy making other plans :grouphug; even though things are not going well, marvin is lucky to have such a strong family group. my ex-husband comes from a very large family, his mother had 10 siblings his father 11. the only time most of them speak to each other is weddings and funerals. know that we are all thinking of you and hoping for the best outcomes possible and wish we were there to help.
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I'm hoping that 2009 will be a much better year for all of you. :cuddle;
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Petey - you are an angel and a strong one at that! I hope 2009 brings better health for Marvin's family. :cuddle;
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The last week or so has been a blur at our house. Marvin's brother Walt (surgery on Dec. 8 to remove part of stomach, part of pancreas, part of intestines, and all of gallbladder -- cancer found) is improving slowly. He still has an open wound and is still losing weight (lost about 10 pounds since the surgery -- is down to about 140 pounds now). He is, however, up and moving around some, so that's good. I am very concerned -- even though the surgeon said she thought she got it all, I'm not convinced. I would think that he would be putting back on weight -- or at least holding steady. He had a feeding tube and was eating by mouth for four weeks. They took the feeding tube out last week.
Marvin's other brother, Buddy, found out he had advanced pancreatic and liver cancer on Dec. 12. Surgery was not an option. Chemo was mentioned, but now that's not possible either. Buddy is in a lot (and I mean A LOT) of pain. He sleeps about 23 1/2 hours a day. Hospice came in last week. They're now giving him morphine, and he's still hurting. It's a bad, bad situation, and we don't think he'll be able to hang on much longer. He's not eating at all and drinking very, very little. He probably doesn't weigh 125 pounds and is "confused" most of the time. Saturday night he didn't recognize Marvin, and that was about as pitiful as I've seen Marvin.
Now that I'm back in school, Marvin spends his days trying to help with Buddy. I feel like we're just going through the motions of living right now. My heart aches for Marvin, and I don't know how to help him get through this. Marvin's mother died of cancer in 1993, and it was very tough on him (his dad died when he was aoubt 12 and Buddy -- who's 12 years older than Marvin -- sort of took over as Marvin's "father figure").
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Petey, my heart goes out to you and Marvin as well as the entire family. You are Marvin's rock, and he yours, I'm just so sorry that you are both having to cope with all of this. :grouphug;
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Oh Petey...Saul and I just read this and are so very sorry for you, Marvin and all your family. All you can do is be there for Marvin, much like we all try to be there for you. All of our prayers are to lift your family and we pray that through all this stress Marvin can maintain his dialysis and health and for you to maintain your strength.
Saul and Ann
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This is so much to deal with at once - I am so sorry it's happening to Marvin and you petey, all I can do is send you some HUGS! Take care! :grouphug;
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Petey, I am so sorry that you have to go through all of this pain and sadness. We lost a dear aunt to pancreatic cancer a little over a year ago and my mom's best childhood friend from the same the year before. It's a horrible disease. I was already crying every time I read about Walt and then you had the news of Buddy. I will keep all of you in my thoughts and prayers. :grouphug;
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:cuddle; petey, my heart aches for you and Marvin. Please know that our thoughts and prayers are with you and your entire family. Wish I could give you a big HUG and just sit and listen. We are here when you need us and please give Marvin a extra tight squeeze from me. :grouphug;
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My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family...Boxman
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So much to deal with and so much sadness. :'( My heart is hurting for all of you. Prayers being said for Marvin and all the family. I think we all crying with you today. :grouphug;
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Marvin's brother Buddy died this morning about 3:15 a.m. He was diagnosed 28 days ago with pancreatic and liver cancer. We are very sad and heart-broken, for Buddy truly was a wonderful man. However, the last five days, he has suffered horrifically, and we're relieved that his suffering is over -- that is the only "comfort" we can find now.
One of Marvin's other brothers, Walt, was diagnosed in November -- also with pancreatic cancer. He's currently recovering from extensive surgery.
Please pray for us.
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lots of loving prayers for you all
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{{Hugs}} from across the ocean.
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Prayers going out for all of you.
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Saul and I are so sorry for you. Our prayers go out to you and your family. :grouphug;
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Prayers for your family and love in your time of grief. :grouphug;
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I am so very sorry for all of Marvin's family. Please give him our love. Life can be so hard and you all have really had a lot to deal with lately. Prayers will be said for all of you. I am sure Buddy is happy and painfree and probably talking with our own Ohio Buckeye. :grouphug;
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:grouphug; so sorry Petey
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Marsha and Marvin I'm so sorry for your loss, sending love and prayers for you and all of Buddy's family, particularly Walt :grouphug;
Buddy is now painfree and I hope your own pain will ease in time. We all love you guys :cuddle;
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Sorry to hear petey.
I'm at a loss of words. It looks like so far Walt is going to pull through and that is a good thing. With 2 brothers having pancreatic cancer will doctors test Marvin?
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Sorry to hear petey.
I'm at a loss of words. It looks like so far Walt is going to pull through and that is a good thing. With 2 brothers having pancreatic cancer will doctors test Marvin?
The last time Buddy went to Duke (Durham, NC) to see the oncologist, Marvin and another brother (Jim) went with him. The doctor told Buddy that Duke was interested in doing a research study on his family -- if they would participate. Apparently, this is a hereditary thing, and the doctor said they could test any and all close blood relatives of Buddy's to see if they carried the gene. If a family member does not have the gene, you say, "Whew! Something else will get me." If a family member does have the gene, they can have close and frequent testing to try to catch it early if it strikes you (just because another family member has the gene doesn't mean that they'll get the disease -- it just makes them "predisposed" to the disease).
Marvin and Jim both told the doctor, "Sign me up. I want to particiapte." Since then, the other brother and sister (there were six children in the family), Buddy's children and grandchildren, and lots of the nieces and nephews also have expressed an interest in participating in the study.
The doctor said Buddy and Walt's situation wasn't unusual because it was hereditary; however, it was extremely unusual that these two would be diagnosed within about a month of each other.
But, then Marvin's family has this hereditary thing going anyway. Another of Marvin's brothers, Ron, was on PD for four months before he got a cadaveric kidney transplant (Nov. of 1994). Four months later, Marvin started on dialysis. There you go ... two brothers with the same disease (ESRD), diagnosed within months of each other. By the way, Ron's transplant just celebrated his 14th anniversary -- still going strong and going great. It was a perfect match (6/6) from New York -- we live in North Carolina. Ron is very, very lucky. Of course, Marvin (dialysis for most of the last 14 years -- live donor transplant for three years in the middle) also says that he's lucky.
The visitation for Buddy is this afternoon, and his funeral is tomorrow. The next two days will be difficult.
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My deepest condolences to all of you Petey. I'll be thinking of you often in the days to come. :grouphug;
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:'( Marsha, I am so sorry to read this post. We will be thinking and praying for you and Marvin's family that you find peace and strength in each other. God Bless you all. :cuddle;
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Sending you BIG :grouphug; :grouphug; :grouphug;
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I am sorry for all you are dealing with Petey. :grouphug;
I was not aware that there is a possible genetic component to pancreatic cancer. I do not think my husband's family is aware of this either. My husband's aunt died of pancreatic cancer fall 2007. I hope it will not be PKD from one side of the family and pancreatic cancer from the other... :'( :'( :'( My son is just beginning to grapple with the notion that he could have PKD. My husband first had high blood pressure at 25 and his father first had high blood pressure at 23. Will is now 18 1/2. These genetic diseases feel like ticking time bombs.
I just did a quick web search and found one site that says about 10% of pancreatic cancer appears to be genetic. That's a pretty small percentage, I guess.
Petey, I know this is a lot to ask, but sometime later on when you are feeling stronger, if you will let me know if you learn something that you can share - a website with good info, or any other information on the possible genetic links of this disease... thank you :grouphug;
I have to say though that right now I am sitting here losing it. :'(
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I'll be sending extra love your way over the next 2 very difficult days :grouphug;
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Thank You for replying Petey and you didn't have to. I'm glad that they will tes frequently.
Why don't you take a rest from the pc, get some rest and spend some time with Marvin. You both have been running ragged lately and deserve a break of some kind. You need some me time even though we are grateful and saddened by your updates.
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Actually, searching around on the internet and coming here is a type of therapy for me. We're still squeezing in Marvin's home hemo treatments every day, so I'm "housebound" during that three hours -- and there's only so many times you can mop a kitchen floor in one day.
Thanks for all the thoughts and prayers.
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Prayers to you and your family. So much to deal with. Sorry Petey, you and Marvin deserve a break. Thankfully you have eachother. :grouphug;
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:grouphug; petey and Marvin. We are thinking abou you all. :cuddle;
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It's been a tough week, and we're still struggling. We had planned a "benefit" barbecue day for Buddy for tomorrow (Jan. 17) because Buddy's had so many medical bills (pitiful insurance, too). When we planned it, we were hoping Buddy could come and have a chance to visit with all of his friends. Now that he's gone, we're still going forward with it (he had no life insurance, and funerals are expensive). Marvin's been working all week to get everything lined up for that. Even as we speak, there are about 20 volunteers at our town's ballfield cooking pigs to sell plates tomorrow. (Marvin, Buddy, and I are all heavily involved in the youth baseball organization around here.) We're hoping for a good crowd. Marvin came home so we could do a treatment this afternoon after I got home from school, but we're both going back to the baseball park tonight.
So far, Marvin has gotten everything donated -- pigs, slaw, baked beans, tea, rolls, cakes, pies, plates, cup, ice, etc. The volunteers who coach in my youth baseball league are doing all the cooking and serving. These are wonderful people, and I couldn't love them more if they were my brothers and sisters. We're hoping to get "donations" for the barbecue plates, and all the proceeds will go to Buddy's children to pay off his medical and funeral bills.
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What a wonderful way to support you, these people sound like angels and you must live near Mayberry (Andy Griffin) ... :grouphug; Hugs to you and Marvin.
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petey, :bow; you and Marvin are just such wonderful people. I can't imagine going through a death and then having to deal with financial issue too. Bless your hearts and I hope tomorrow brings much need funds. Please give Marvin a big :cuddle; from me and let us know how it goes. We will all be thinking about you. :cuddle;
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You obviously have some fans in your community. Of course! Do unto others... :cuddle;
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sounds like its a great testament to what a good guy he was, I'm sorry for your loss.
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:bump; Tell us how yesterday went petey. :waving;
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The fund-raiser day we had yesterday for Buddy (Marvin's brother) was phenomenal !
First of all, let me set the scene. We live in a little tiny town (two stoplights and about 750 residents). Here, everybody knows everybody, and most people are kin one way or another to most everybody else. Marvin's family is well-known in the community for the volunteer work we all do in various organizations and churches.
Marvin had barbecue, slaw, baked beans, rolls, plates, cups, ice, tea, desserts, etc. donated by businesses and individuals (lots of "old" ladies in town baked cakes), and our goal was to provide 500 plates (asking for a $6 donation for each plate). We sold out of everything (and even had to go buy more plastic silverware sets, more baked beans, and more rolls). We cooked 840 pounds of barbecue and barbecued 200 chicken quarters. When the day was over, we had sold almost 900 plates and raised a little over $12,000.
Buddy, Marvin, and I have volunteered for years and years in the "Dixie Youth Baseball" program (youth baseball organization -- run entirely by volunteers in 11 southern states -- similar to "Little League"). We held the benefit day at our ball park, and the men and women who coach in our little town with me and Marvin cooked, served, planned, and prepared everything. Marvin's other family members came in and helped our baseball group pull everything off. We had not only local people come, but lots of Dixie Youth "family" from various parts of the state came, too. It was a wonderful day, and we were so humbled by the generosity of our friends who came to support the event. Those of us who "worked" were tired, but we had a good time -- lots of laughs and memories shared.
Buddy's children now have enough funds to pay off his medical bills, his funeral bill, and even buy a marker for his grave. They cried and cried when they saw how many people came and helped them out. Buddy --- who was a "people person" -- would have been thrilled if he could have been there to talk to everybody. He loved all people, and while we knew he was well-thought-of, we had no idea that it would be that big and that successful.
I know there are some mean, rotten people in this world, but yesterday, my faith in humanity was strengthened even more. There really are so many good, kind people in this world, and I'm blessed that I know a lot of them.
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:clap; Oh petey, that is just wonderful. I thought about you a lot yesterday. That sounds like the kind of place I would like to live. I'm sure that Buddy is smiling down at everyone for taking care of his family. Bless you and Marvin for pulling all of that off on such short notice. :cuddle;
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That was a superb memorial to Buddy. I bet he was there with you in spirit enjoying every minute of it!
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Marsha, you and Marvin are such special people. What a wonderful tribute to Buddy and what a fantastic warm feeling you must have to know that Buddy was so highly thought of by so many people. Kit is right, Buddy was there enjoying it all. :cuddle;
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It's inspiring to hear your story and how a community came together. It's special tribute to Buddy and his family.
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Petey how AWESOME :bandance; :bandance; when going threw a crisis worrying about money is the last thing someone should have to deal with and now because of Marvin and all the great people his kids won't have to wonder how to pay for things. :grouphug; :grouphug;
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petey, i truly believe that while there may be mean rotten people in this world, they are really few and far between. we just hear about them. a wonderful story like the results of your bar-b-que rarely makes the nightly news. i'm glad it was such a success. what a wonderful memory for buddy's family to have. a fabulous testament to the goodness in all of us.
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Yesterday was a great testimony to Marvin's family including you and I'm sure Buddy was there with everyone too. You are blessed.
Ann
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:waving; petey, how is Walt doing? We need an update. How are you and Marvin holding up? :cuddle;
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Thanks for asking, willieandwinnie. Walt seems to be holding his own. The incision is slow to heal (still packing after two months), and he's not gaining any weight (in fact, he's lost some). To me, he still doesn't "look good" (color in face is still yellow some, ashy some, and pale some). However, he says he's feeling stronger every day. It's been a long, uphill battle. Poor fella! But, he has a good, optimistic attitude about it all.
We are all struggling with the loss of Marvin's other brother, Buddy. Buddy was the "daddy" in the family (though he was the second oldest). Since Marvin's dad died when Marvin was a little boy, Buddy took over that role for all of the others (but especially Marvin). Every Father's Day, I would get something for Buddy from Marvin and me. Since I didn't know Marvin's dad, I used to tell Buddy that he was the only father-in-law I had known. We miss him terribly.
The rest of the family has started treating Marvin like the "daddy" now -- and that's so weird. The other five siblings are close in age (all five born within about seven years), and Marvin came along eight years after the fifth one. (He was definitely a surprise baby -- his mom was 40 and his dad 52.) Marvin has always, always been the BABY -- and now, they're looking to him to lead the family. So far, Marvin is being a good "daddy" and calls all the others several times a day, makes sure they're okay, visits them every time he gets a chance. Marvin was also the one Buddy's grown children looked to to make decisions during the funeral; he has been so good to his niece and nephew. Of course, Marvin says he's just "paying back" to them how good Buddy was to him.
I'm the youngest in my family, and I'm also eight years younger than Marvin (so I'm the age of several of his nieces and nephews). I always thought that I'd like to "last" longer than all the others, but I don't think so any more. It's so hard when you lose one. Marvin has declared that he'll out-live all the rest (even me!), and he probably will.
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Clearly these are difficult times for you and Marvin and the family, but still Petey, I can tell you that you are lucky to have so much love in your family. I hope Walt continues to get stronger and that his wound will heal a little more quickly as his strength grows.
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Marvin's brother Walt has had bad news again. Last week, the doctors discovered he had Stage 4 esphogeal cancer; they also think it's in his lymph nodes and maybe his lungs. This is the brother who had pancreatic cancer (and surgery) in November. To me, he never really "got well." And, now, I tend to think that it was spreading even then. Walt's down to about 130 pounds. He went to Duke Hospital today and is scheduled to go back next Monday. The doctors tell him surgery isn't an option this time; they're planning chemo and radiation. But, I'm not sure there's anything that can help him.
Marvin lost another brother (Buddy) in January to pancreatic and liver cancer (only 28 days after finding out he had it), and we are still in shock and mourning over the loss of Buddy. Losing another one so soon will break our hearts.
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Marsha and Marvin I am so sorry to hear this dreadful news, I will pray for Walt and for you both - and all the family. I hope you may get a miracle although it sounds bleak. You are such a lovely family and you certainly don't deserve to be going through all this again, life is s unfair, I have tears down my cheeks. God bless you all, Rose xx
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:( Oh Marsha, this is just awful - I am so sorry for your family.
Please let us know how it's going.
Sending you love and hugs. :grouphug; :grouphug; :grouphug;
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What horrible news for your family Petey. I'll be thinking of you . :grouphug;
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:'( Oh petey. I will say extra prayers for Walt and his family and for Marvin and you. What horrible news to read with all that is going on. I am so sorry. :grouphug;
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Marsha, you and Marvin need to draw on some special strength from others. I hope knowing that your IHD family cares will help.
Aleta
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You are your family are in my thoughts. :grouphug;
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I am at a loss of words to say that others have already said.
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This is such a hard time. My thoughts and prayers are with you, Marvin and his family. :grouphug;
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Oh My Goodness- I just saw this - your poor family- you guys have so much love for each other- I will be thinking of you and sending strong thoughts of strength your way!! :grouphug; :grouphug; :grouphug;
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Marvin's brother Walt (pancreatic cancer found last November -- surgery -- chemo -- cancer spread from there) is not doing well at all. They have stopped the chemo because the doctors said it wasn't doing anything (we had all suspected this because Walt looks and feels awful). On Thursday, the doctors said there is nothing else they can do for him; they have recommended that Hospice be called in.
Walt and his wife are having a very difficult time with this. Basically, I think they're in denial (as is understandable). They say, "Something else will come along for the doctors to try." But the rest of the family realizes that this is the end (though we still try to bolster Walt and wife because they're hanging on to the hope that there's something...). Right now, Walt's wife is refusing Hospice; she said Hospice was for people with less than 6 months to live and she doesn't believe Walt fits in that category. Just from looking at Walt, I don't see how he'll live six more weeks -- much less six months. But, we're trying not to interfere with their decisions.
Since we just lost another brother (Buddy) in January to pancreatic cancer, this situation with Walt is bringing back some tough memories. Marvin, his sister, and his other two brothers are clinging to each other. It's a sad, sad time for our family.
Now to add some more bad news. Another brother (Ron) had a biopsy Thursday. The doctors think he has prostate cancer. We'll know the results in the latter part of next week. There is none of this that is fair. There is none of this that is easy.
Through it all, though, Marvin remains strong. He has become the rock that the rest of the family is leaning on. Funny thing is --- the rest of them thought that Marvin would be the first to go. Marvin tells them now that he will be the last -- he even says he'll out-live his nieces and nephews!
Please remember Marvin's family in your prayers. The next few weeks/months will be tough ones again for us.
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So sorry to read of this Petey. My thoughts are with your family. :grouphug;
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I will be keeping your family in my thoughts and prayers. :grouphug;
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Its so unfair-your family is suffering such pain. I will keep you'all in my thoughts, and know I wish for peace for you guys. I don't know what else to say- I hate it that you have to go through this. Words seem so inadequate. :grouphug;
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So sorry for you and Marvin, Petey.
I understand the denial part. It may be the only way they can cope.
Hugs and kind thoughts.
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Aleta
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:grouphug; Oh petey, this just breaks my heart. How much can one family endure? :pray; I will say special prayers for Walt and pray that his wife realizes that Hospice is for Walts comfort and hers. Will keep praying and thinking about you and Marvin. Bless Marvins heart. :cuddle;
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I am so sorry petey. :grouphug;
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Life is so unfair petey. Denial may be the only way they can deal with the situation. My thoughts are with you. Take care. :cuddle; :cuddle; :flower; :flower;
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So sorry Petey. Really. :grouphug; :pray; :pray; :pray;
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Just checked in to see how you all are and I'm so sorry to read this, life sure is unfair. You, Marvin and all your family are in my prayers :cuddle;
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Petey I do not have the words to tell you how all of this is so sad for you and your husband! :grouphug; :grouphug; :grouphug;
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Marvin's brother Walt is much, much worse. His wife relented and let Hospice come in to help Sunday afternoon. The last two days and two nights have been extremely difficult. Walt is very weak, in a great deal of pain, and swollen tremendously. It is so very sad to watch.
Brother Ron's biopsy results came back, and it is prostate cancer. It's like our whole family is living under a dark, dark cloud. We are devastated. Please pray for us.
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I am so sorry- I wish I could help you. :grouphug;
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Why does it happen to the nicest people? My heart is breaking for you. Prayers for you all :cuddle;
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Oh petey, I am so sorry. We are all here your for and your family. Give Marvin a extra tight hug. Will continue to keep you in my thoughts and prayers. :cuddle;
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Petey, we're so sorry. We hope Hospice can ease Walt's pain and that Ron's cancer treatment, whatever it is, is very sucessful.
Rolando and Alene
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:grouphug; petey, keeping you in thoughts and :pray; :cuddle;
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I'm sorry I missed this earlier. :cuddle;
Wishing that your family did not have to go through all this, especially at one time. :'(
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We lost Marvin's brother Walt about 7:30 last night (Friday). The whole family is heart-broken.
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Oh Petey, I'm so very sorry to hear this. Condolences to you, Marvin and the rest of the family. :grouphug;
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:cuddle; Oh Marsha, I am so sorry to hear this. I will continue to pray for your entire family and some extra ones for Marvin. May Walt rest in peace. :cuddle;
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How very sad... my thoughts and prayers are with your family :cuddle;
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Petey, I'm sorry to read this. I've been missing you.
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I am so sorry. :cuddle; My prayers will be with Marvin during the next few days. And for all of you for strength. :cuddle;
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Marsha I am so sorry to read this, I'm sending love and concolences to you, Marvin and all of Walt's family and friends. We love you :grouphug;
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Sorry to hear petey, now he can rest in peace.
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So sorry Petey. Please take care of yourself. Love from your grumpy old friend, Dan and condolences to you and your husband.
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My heart goes out to you and Marvin, Petey.
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Oh, I am so sorry for your loss. You are in my thoughts.
xoxo
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:'( Godspeed.
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:grouphug; for you and Marvin and your family. We're so sorry you have to go through this yet again.
Rolando and Alene
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I hope you and Marvin and all of his family are holding up all right.
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:grouphug; Marsha and Marvin, your in my thoughts and prayers. :cuddle;
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So sorry to hear of Walt's death. My cares and prayers to all the family.
Love, Mimi
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Petey has been in my thoughts today. Hope Marvin and his family are doing ok. :cuddle;
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:cuddle; Thinking of you and Marvin. :cuddle;
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It's been a very, very long week. Walt's wife had his body cremated, and she decided to put the funeral off until tomorrow (eight days after his death). Don't ask me why. She said she needed time to get everything together. What she didn't take into consideration is that it was a long week for the family and for her especially. I think she's still in denial that he's gone (as she never really accepted that his death was imminent even after Hospice came in, even after he was totally bed-ridden, even after he was suffering so).
Marvin has been very, very strong for his two other brothers, his sister, and all the nieces and nephews. At home late at night when it's just the two of us, he struggles with it. Losing two brothers within eight months of each other -- both from pancreatic cancer -- has been tough. He has been trying to help Walt's wife all week -- making arrangements, handling financial and household affairs, being there and being strong for her ... he really has not grieved himself. I think that will come tomorrow.
Please remember Marvin tomorrow (Sat.).
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Sending my love to you and Marvin, I wish I could be there to give you both a big hug. Life is so damn unfair. Love you both :grouphug; Rose xxx
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:cuddle; Marsha, my heart just breaks for Marvin. Special thoughts and prayers for the whole family today and an extra :pray; for Marvin. :cuddle;
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Just wanted you to know I'm sending LOTS of LOVE, HUGS and PRAYERS to you guys. xoxoxo :grouphug;
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Thanks for takiing the time to tell you how you are doing. I'll think about you and Marvin during the day today. I've been missing you online and am looking forward to your getting back and you and Marvin feeling a little better. :cuddle;
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:grouphug; :grouphug; :grouphug; Petey.
When my mom died, my dad was also in denial that she would not get better, even though she could not even get out of bed for the month before her death. I feel for your SIL, and for you and Marvin.
I know you all are strong, but death takes its toll on the living. :cuddle;
Thinking of you.
Aleta
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:cuddle; Thinking of you
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Petey, I'm sorry to hear the sad news. My thoughts and prayers are with you and Marvin and your family. :grouphug;