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Title: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: Amanda From OZ on August 17, 2006, 11:00:41 PM
Hey ..

This might sound like a stupid question but i noticed that some patient have not grown and developed properly. I was wondering why they stay small, even after a transplant.. and the reason why they didn't grow in the first place.

Has anyone had this experience??? and is it true i might shrink?
Thanks

Amanda
Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: Epoman on August 18, 2006, 12:15:54 AM
Hey ..

This might sound liek a stupid question but i notcied over the time that some patient who are older have not gone, and look quiet small, i was wondeing why they stay small, even after a transplant.. and the reason why they didnt go in the first place.

Thanks

Amanda

liek=like
notcied=noticed
patient=patients
gone=grown
quiet=quite
wondeing=wondering
didnt=didn't
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Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: Epoman on August 22, 2006, 05:06:28 PM
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Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: Amanda From OZ on August 22, 2006, 05:14:13 PM
Thanks EPOMAN
Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: Sara on August 22, 2006, 05:50:16 PM
Are you referring to children not growing as much or as quickly as their classmates?
Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: Amanda From OZ on August 22, 2006, 05:59:13 PM
well i have been told that children wont grow like everyone else if they have kidney disease at a young age.
Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: Rerun on August 22, 2006, 09:29:54 PM
That is true.  Remember that little black kid on "Differrent Strokes"??  Gary Coleman??  He was a kidney kid.  I think he has had a couple of transplants and is back on dialysis. 

Your kidneys do SO much more than just filter out toxins and fluids.
Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: kitkatz on August 22, 2006, 09:31:27 PM
Well my parents are both six feet tall, my sisters are 5'8"and 5'9" tall; however I am 5'4" tall.  What happened?  Probably kidney disease.
Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: Amanda From OZ on August 23, 2006, 02:47:44 AM
oh i never new that guy from different strokes had kidney disease... that would explain it.

Thank for your answers :)
Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: SpeedFleX on August 23, 2006, 09:02:18 AM
I am not that big, I'm 1,60m that's 5,24 feet. When I go to the movies I have to show ID^^.


So yes Kidney failure does effect growth since the kidneys produce the growth hormones or so I heard. From my 12 birthday to my 17 I had to give myself a growth hormone shot.
Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: Black on August 23, 2006, 09:07:38 AM
I am not that big, I'm 1,60m that's 5,24 feet. When I go to the movies I have to show ID^^.


So yes Kidney failure does effect growth since the kidneys produce the growth hormones or so I heard. From my 12 birthday to my 17 I had to give myself a growth hormone shot.

Why did they stop at age 17?
Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: BigSky on August 23, 2006, 09:19:04 AM
well i have been told that children wont grow like everyone else if they have kidney disease at a young age.

That is true.

My guess is it would have to do with the affect of how kidney failure screws with the bodies hormones and the loss of protein.
Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: SpeedFleX on August 23, 2006, 09:35:27 AM
I am not that big, I'm 1,60m that's 5,24 feet. When I go to the movies I have to show ID^^.


So yes Kidney failure does effect growth since the kidneys produce the growth hormones or so I heard. From my 12 birthday to my 17 I had to give myself a growth hormone shot.

Why did they stop at age 17?

Cause some bone in my hand was fully grown so it wouldn't be good to keep giving me growth hormones since I could get a tumor from it or something like that
Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: angieskidney on August 23, 2006, 10:53:47 AM
I don't want to be a post spammer but I really wanted to contribute and felt I had very good experience with this topic.

Rerun is 100% correct in what she said!

That is true. Remember that little black kid on "Differrent Strokes"?? Gary Coleman?? He was a kidney kid. I think he has had a couple of transplants and is back on dialysis.

Your kidneys do SO much more than just filter out toxins and fluids.

I grew up in the Hospital for Sick Kids in Toronto and was surrounded by kids with renal disease. So  many of us had transplants while still in the children's hospital and I remember some were so small I didn't realize they were teenagers. One girl I honestly thought was only 8 years old .. turns out she was 16. I remember thinking "I never want to be too short because what boy would like me?" I was 16 as well but I was lucky enough to be 5'3" by that time.

I only grew 2 more inches after my transplant because I was noncompliant and didn't take my Cyclosporine which also stunts your growth.


Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: Epoman on August 24, 2006, 12:04:38 PM
My Dad 6' 2"
My Brother 6' 6"
My Mom 5' 2"

Me 5' 11"

So I believe my growth was stunted, because at 21 when I started, the docs said I need dialysis 6-8 years ago. To bad my parents were to busy fighting to notice "hey why is our son tired all the time and lacks energy and has these bumps on his arms?" Thanks mom and dad.  ::)

Now even shorter because of this damn wheelchair.  >:(
Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: Amanda From OZ on August 24, 2006, 04:02:21 PM
Hey Epoman,

Does Anyone in your family have kidney problems??
Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: Epoman on August 24, 2006, 06:45:26 PM
Hey Epoman,

Does Anyone in your family have kidney problems??

NOT ONE, lucky huh?  :( Both sides of the family.
Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: Python on September 02, 2006, 08:22:13 AM
Yes kidney problems can stunt your growth, but genetics come into it too.

In our family we all tend to be on the short side with my brother and late grandfather bucking the trend - my brother is 6'4", my late grandfather was over 6' too.

My dad was 5'7".  My mum 5'.  I am 5'1", my daughter is 5'3" and Ian (Shades-Elfen) is 5'4".  Ian's father (my ex-husband) was the tallest in his family at 5'8", his father was only 4'11" (no kidney problems in his side of the family), so I think there is a large element of genetics at work too.
Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: Fox_nc on September 12, 2006, 01:14:05 PM
Much like Angie  I had kidney problems as a small child and knew many other patients that had very stunted growth.  Since your kidney's produce growth hormones, it affects us all a little different based as the actual problem the kidney is having and at what point in development the problem occurred.  I, myself am average height, but look like I'm 12.  They didn't try to replace the lost growth hormones until I was 14, which was a little late. . . But I'm told one day I will appreciate it.  I'm almost 30 and don't appreciate it yet  ... :)
Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: Amanda From OZ on September 12, 2006, 05:11:27 PM
ohhhh OK thanks, :)

is it possible to shrink once you have fully developed??
Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: Rerun on September 12, 2006, 09:23:04 PM
Yes.  Especially if you are on Prednisone.  Bone deterioration.  I use to be 5'1 and now I'm barley 4'11.  I'm going to be one of those short little old ladies that people point at and say "isn't she cute."   >:(
Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: angieskidney on September 13, 2006, 01:57:55 AM
hehehe people never take the short cute people seriously but I have the feeling you have conpensated for that ;) People know to take Rerun seriously ;)
Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: Amanda From OZ on September 13, 2006, 05:19:17 AM
Ha ha thats so true.

I started dialysis when i was 22 so i believe i already did most of my growing. But last week i came back from the doctors and i grew 4cm since being on dialysis.......... i was so proud :)   ;D
Title: Re: Kidney failure and growth..
Post by: angieskidney on September 13, 2006, 06:22:27 AM
Now if only my legs would grow :( I have the legs of a short person  :-[